Lucinda Holdforth

It's when people are struggling, and I think there are a lot of women in particular, because our generation's had more divorce and so on.

When we have people... Women had children later, so they are the sandwich generation.

They're still working or trying to work.

They've got children who need them.

They probably have parents who need them as well.

And they're expected to try and look great, all of which is an enormous burden.

Actually, I don't really know what that means.

And I watched an entire documentary, so nobody else needs to, with a man called Brian Johnston, who was this kind of hairless, bizarre figure.

And he just seemed to be taking all these...

drugs of various kinds.

He had a very strict vegan diet.

He'd go to bed every night at 8.30.

He exercised to the point of exhaustion.

He had no social life.

He was a multimillionaire and he wants to live forever.

And the biohacking includes things they showed in the documentary, his son nearby, and it turned out the son was donating his youthful plasma to dad.

You just couldn't make it up.

That's vampiric.

It is vampiric.

Yes, and the tech bros and the world dictators are the specialists in this arena.