Lucy Biggers

We're like, we were 11 when 9-11 happened.

And when Osama bin Laden got shot, we had a party at my college because we were so excited.

So we were very much still, it was like, now there'd be probably like a eulogy for something.

Right.

So, I mean, even I was kind of a transition generation to what this younger generation has been even fed.

But I will say, I think the context of, for me, and maybe just not being inoculated against this at my home and at school was like, obviously Obama is the hope president.

Obviously Bush is bad.

Look at the forever wars.

Look at the financial crisis.

Look at income inequality.

And so I was just sort of your basic millennial liberal because that was just the path of least resistance.

And everyone who was conservative, I just kind of thought was like,

old school or they didn't get it.

And I never was articulated to in a way that made me feel like I should be on that side.

And only after being on the left for so long and seeing it go completely crazy was I like, hold on, I need to get out of here.

And basically, essentially re-educate myself.

And...

I don't know, there was enough cognitive dissonance, obviously, though, that I was able to leave the movement and I chose to work for Barry, which is not exactly a safe choice.

And when I will say, being now at the Free Press for three years, and you know all of our contributors, our writers, Douglas Murray, Neil Ferguson, all these people who, now they're household names to me, and I now know all their work, and that also helped re-educate me.

Because even coming into the Free Press,