Lucy Biggers

convinced me that this was an existential threat and did not have a deep understanding of the science.

And to the point where I'll just anecdotally say, like, in 2019, I learned that CO2 was only 0.04% of the atmosphere.

Up until that point, I'd been covering the climate for four years, and I didn't even know what percent of the atmosphere CO2 was.

So that was how, like, turned off my critical thinking was because I was getting so much support from being part of this movement that I just...

pushed it, right?

And that was five years of my career.

I mean, I'm a little naive.

No, it's important though, because I think it's like showing how someone, even if you're intelligent, thank you, can turn your critical thinking off when you're in groupthink.

Yeah.

I think there's the confluence of things, of timing and my generation and technology and politics because, again, I'm a millennial.

I'm like the perfect... I was born in 1990.

So this is my mid-20s.

It's 20 teens.

Social media is picking up.

I'm scrolling on my algorithm, which we did not really understand how those things worked then, right?

I feel like I was like patient zero of some of this stuff.

And I was also at the same time working in a very left-wing newsroom, which cannot be separated from my story because...

While I was at that newsroom, so it's 2015 I started, and then 2016, Trump's rise is happening.

We're all Bernie supporters.

Trump gets elected and kind of everyone goes crazy, right?