Lucy Meggeson

And actually thinking about the amount of work that women do in relationships.

And yes, this is, you know, this is not always the case and this is a generalization, but I think perhaps the reason you can generalize is because it,

So many.

It's true.

I was just going to say, like, when I think about my friends and their, you know, no matter how kind of forward thinking or modern or whatever you want to call it, that their husbands are,

The vast majority of the kid men, of all of the life admin of the organization.

I mean, it's just, it lands on the woman.

I mean, I have one friend who she literally does every, and they've got, you know, she works, he works, they've got two kids.

She does all of the classic female things, all of it, like literally all of it.

And another friend, I remember I was actually on holiday with her at the time.

And I was kind of rolling my eyes because, again, two kids, very sort of traditional roles.

And he was messaging her when we were in Greece.

She was basically messaging him back and forth to make an arrangement for one of their kids back in the UK.

It was all kind of, you know, had to go through her.

And it blows my mind.

And I think it's very, you know, again, even the most kind of forward thinking, the most helpful husbands, somehow there are things that land naturally with a woman.

And it's just the way it is.

And I think what women need to be is very, very clear from the off.

Like if you're a woman who really wants to make it equal, you're going to have to be really clear about that when you get together with someone and say, look, if we have kids, you know, and going back to the falling birth rates, it's like,

part of the reason I believe that less women are having kids is because it's not a great deal in many ways.