Lucy Shipley

And he's ambitious too, but he's married to her sister, who is kind of, again, a more gentle, retiring flower type of personality. So the two of them scheme off together, get rid of their spouses. Slightly problematic thing to do, but it only gets worse because they then go on to overthrow her father.

bingo that is exactly the story that we are talking about here and it's presented in Livy that this is all her idea it's coming from her I don't know what kind of daddy issues she has to drive her to do this but yeah and her charioteer supposedly refuses to do this awful thing and she takes the reins herself and says I'll do it then. And drives over the body of her dead father in the street.

bingo that is exactly the story that we are talking about here and it's presented in Livy that this is all her idea it's coming from her I don't know what kind of daddy issues she has to drive her to do this but yeah and her charioteer supposedly refuses to do this awful thing and she takes the reins herself and says I'll do it then. And drives over the body of her dead father in the street.

bingo that is exactly the story that we are talking about here and it's presented in Livy that this is all her idea it's coming from her I don't know what kind of daddy issues she has to drive her to do this but yeah and her charioteer supposedly refuses to do this awful thing and she takes the reins herself and says I'll do it then. And drives over the body of her dead father in the street.

So, you know, what more drama could you wish for? But again, we have to be careful. So it's such a rip roaring yarn, isn't it? You know, I saw your face when you started telling it and I'm grinning like an idiot because it's such a great story. But remember, it's doing a job for Livy. It's showing very clearly that women can be vicious and not to be trusted near power. It's kind of this

So, you know, what more drama could you wish for? But again, we have to be careful. So it's such a rip roaring yarn, isn't it? You know, I saw your face when you started telling it and I'm grinning like an idiot because it's such a great story. But remember, it's doing a job for Livy. It's showing very clearly that women can be vicious and not to be trusted near power. It's kind of this

So, you know, what more drama could you wish for? But again, we have to be careful. So it's such a rip roaring yarn, isn't it? You know, I saw your face when you started telling it and I'm grinning like an idiot because it's such a great story. But remember, it's doing a job for Livy. It's showing very clearly that women can be vicious and not to be trusted near power. It's kind of this

most awful thing to do, to desecrate your father's body, to betray your family. It's a fable. It's not just a kind of, wow, this is awful, true crime-esque. It's putting together a lesson for the reader that actually women shouldn't be allowed anywhere near power because they will do horrible things like this. And this is an Etruscan woman as well.

most awful thing to do, to desecrate your father's body, to betray your family. It's a fable. It's not just a kind of, wow, this is awful, true crime-esque. It's putting together a lesson for the reader that actually women shouldn't be allowed anywhere near power because they will do horrible things like this. And this is an Etruscan woman as well.

most awful thing to do, to desecrate your father's body, to betray your family. It's a fable. It's not just a kind of, wow, this is awful, true crime-esque. It's putting together a lesson for the reader that actually women shouldn't be allowed anywhere near power because they will do horrible things like this. And this is an Etruscan woman as well.

We are going to talk so much about Livy's portrayal of the Etruscans, but this idea that women are are powerful in Etruscan society and that that is dangerous is going to come up time and again.

We are going to talk so much about Livy's portrayal of the Etruscans, but this idea that women are are powerful in Etruscan society and that that is dangerous is going to come up time and again.

We are going to talk so much about Livy's portrayal of the Etruscans, but this idea that women are are powerful in Etruscan society and that that is dangerous is going to come up time and again.

Yeah it's kind of infiltrated into her so it's that influence so she has this very powerful mother-in-law and it's giving her ideas effectively is the

Yeah it's kind of infiltrated into her so it's that influence so she has this very powerful mother-in-law and it's giving her ideas effectively is the

Yeah it's kind of infiltrated into her so it's that influence so she has this very powerful mother-in-law and it's giving her ideas effectively is the

Yeah, so Tanaquil is still kind of in the picture with all of this insanity going on. Although she kind of fades out. I'd love to know if this is all real. Goodness knows what she's thinking at all of this. She's sort of watching behind her hands going, oh my God, what have I unleashed?

Yeah, so Tanaquil is still kind of in the picture with all of this insanity going on. Although she kind of fades out. I'd love to know if this is all real. Goodness knows what she's thinking at all of this. She's sort of watching behind her hands going, oh my God, what have I unleashed?

Yeah, so Tanaquil is still kind of in the picture with all of this insanity going on. Although she kind of fades out. I'd love to know if this is all real. Goodness knows what she's thinking at all of this. She's sort of watching behind her hands going, oh my God, what have I unleashed?

But in the end, really, if we think about it from her perspective, it ends up going pretty well for her because her son ends up being king after all of this has kind of calmed down, after the body has been cleared up out of the street. It's Tarquinius Superbus who goes on to become king in Rome. But you can only outrun your karma for so long and they end up being kicked out in their turn.