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Lucy Shipley

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
423 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

But in the end, really, if we think about it from her perspective, it ends up going pretty well for her because her son ends up being king after all of this has kind of calmed down, after the body has been cleared up out of the street. It's Tarquinius Superbus who goes on to become king in Rome. But you can only outrun your karma for so long and they end up being kicked out in their turn.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

But in the end, really, if we think about it from her perspective, it ends up going pretty well for her because her son ends up being king after all of this has kind of calmed down, after the body has been cleared up out of the street. It's Tarquinius Superbus who goes on to become king in Rome. But you can only outrun your karma for so long and they end up being kicked out in their turn.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

This is another really famous story that I think a lot of people will know. And it's actually their son who kind of causes this problem. It's that rape of Lucretia story. So I think I referred to this when I was on the podcast before, this idea that, you know, Lucretia is a good Roman woman. She is at home. She is doing textile making. She is weaving.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

This is another really famous story that I think a lot of people will know. And it's actually their son who kind of causes this problem. It's that rape of Lucretia story. So I think I referred to this when I was on the podcast before, this idea that, you know, Lucretia is a good Roman woman. She is at home. She is doing textile making. She is weaving.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

This is another really famous story that I think a lot of people will know. And it's actually their son who kind of causes this problem. It's that rape of Lucretia story. So I think I referred to this when I was on the podcast before, this idea that, you know, Lucretia is a good Roman woman. She is at home. She is doing textile making. She is weaving.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

And the king's son sort of says that there's an argument over women and which women are more virtuous. And the Etruscan women of the court are sort of drinking and partying and having a lovely time because apparently that's what Etruscan women do, party girls. And actually, Lucretia is a good Roman wife and she's not doing that. So of course, you always want what you can't have.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

And the king's son sort of says that there's an argument over women and which women are more virtuous. And the Etruscan women of the court are sort of drinking and partying and having a lovely time because apparently that's what Etruscan women do, party girls. And actually, Lucretia is a good Roman wife and she's not doing that. So of course, you always want what you can't have.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

And the king's son sort of says that there's an argument over women and which women are more virtuous. And the Etruscan women of the court are sort of drinking and partying and having a lovely time because apparently that's what Etruscan women do, party girls. And actually, Lucretia is a good Roman wife and she's not doing that. So of course, you always want what you can't have.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

And you've seen this exemplary woman, the king's son decides that he wants her for his own and he sexually assaults her. And then we have this kind of knock-on ripple of effects that end up with him and his father being thrown out of Rome. And that's the end of the Etruscan kings in Rome. But it's very interesting because, again, it's that kind of fairy tale.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

And you've seen this exemplary woman, the king's son decides that he wants her for his own and he sexually assaults her. And then we have this kind of knock-on ripple of effects that end up with him and his father being thrown out of Rome. And that's the end of the Etruscan kings in Rome. But it's very interesting because, again, it's that kind of fairy tale.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

And you've seen this exemplary woman, the king's son decides that he wants her for his own and he sexually assaults her. And then we have this kind of knock-on ripple of effects that end up with him and his father being thrown out of Rome. And that's the end of the Etruscan kings in Rome. But it's very interesting because, again, it's that kind of fairy tale.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

These are bad people and bad things happen to them. But it's not as straightforward as, oh, they're out and they're gone. Sextus Tarquinius is the son, the bad prince who makes this decision and causes all this trouble. And he ends up being murdered in another city of Gabii, which is just close by Rome.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

These are bad people and bad things happen to them. But it's not as straightforward as, oh, they're out and they're gone. Sextus Tarquinius is the son, the bad prince who makes this decision and causes all this trouble. And he ends up being murdered in another city of Gabii, which is just close by Rome.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

These are bad people and bad things happen to them. But it's not as straightforward as, oh, they're out and they're gone. Sextus Tarquinius is the son, the bad prince who makes this decision and causes all this trouble. And he ends up being murdered in another city of Gabii, which is just close by Rome.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

Yeah, so if you wanted to tie this up in a really neat little bow, you could kind of see this as the beginning of a major shift in the relationships between Etruria and Rome. So you could, if you wanted to be very tidy, you could say that this marks the moment when Etruscan influence over Rome... has fallen back completely.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

Yeah, so if you wanted to tie this up in a really neat little bow, you could kind of see this as the beginning of a major shift in the relationships between Etruria and Rome. So you could, if you wanted to be very tidy, you could say that this marks the moment when Etruscan influence over Rome... has fallen back completely.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

Yeah, so if you wanted to tie this up in a really neat little bow, you could kind of see this as the beginning of a major shift in the relationships between Etruria and Rome. So you could, if you wanted to be very tidy, you could say that this marks the moment when Etruscan influence over Rome... has fallen back completely.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

So now we're sort of seeing Rome moving towards having influence over Etruria eventually. This is maybe that moment where the pendulum just shifts, shifts to the middle and then it's going to keep on going. So it's so interesting just seeing How different communities end up being dragged into this. So, you know, Superbus goes off and he hangs out in Vey for a little while.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

So now we're sort of seeing Rome moving towards having influence over Etruria eventually. This is maybe that moment where the pendulum just shifts, shifts to the middle and then it's going to keep on going. So it's so interesting just seeing How different communities end up being dragged into this. So, you know, Superbus goes off and he hangs out in Vey for a little while.

The Ancients
Fall of the Etruscans

So now we're sort of seeing Rome moving towards having influence over Etruria eventually. This is maybe that moment where the pendulum just shifts, shifts to the middle and then it's going to keep on going. So it's so interesting just seeing How different communities end up being dragged into this. So, you know, Superbus goes off and he hangs out in Vey for a little while.