Luis Elizondo

And where I lived, I was on the other side of D.C., living on a little island in the Chesapeake Bay. And so my commute was terrible. I mean, it really, really frankly sucked.

No, but it was about a three-hour commute each way. Oh, God. Because you have to go right past Langley. Yeah, it was brutal. Why didn't you move closer? Why? Well, I wanted to give my kids a really good quality of life, and I did not want to work in the city and then kind of expose them to kind of the craziness, if that makes sense. Especially D.C. D.C. is crazy.

No, but it was about a three-hour commute each way. Oh, God. Because you have to go right past Langley. Yeah, it was brutal. Why didn't you move closer? Why? Well, I wanted to give my kids a really good quality of life, and I did not want to work in the city and then kind of expose them to kind of the craziness, if that makes sense. Especially D.C. D.C. is crazy.

No, but it was about a three-hour commute each way. Oh, God. Because you have to go right past Langley. Yeah, it was brutal. Why didn't you move closer? Why? Well, I wanted to give my kids a really good quality of life, and I did not want to work in the city and then kind of expose them to kind of the craziness, if that makes sense. Especially D.C. D.C. is crazy.

It's such a disgrace because you bring in these foreign dignitaries, and the first thing they see is, is just the dereliction of it. And it's a very poor reflection on really what the American spirit is about. But that's for another conversation.

It's such a disgrace because you bring in these foreign dignitaries, and the first thing they see is, is just the dereliction of it. And it's a very poor reflection on really what the American spirit is about. But that's for another conversation.

It's such a disgrace because you bring in these foreign dignitaries, and the first thing they see is, is just the dereliction of it. And it's a very poor reflection on really what the American spirit is about. But that's for another conversation.

Yeah, I mean, Jesus Christ, it's the nation's capital. Yeah. So I was offered a job to go back to the Pentagon in 2008 for a little while and basically run the integration between national-level intelligence information and local and state and tribal law enforcement.

Yeah, I mean, Jesus Christ, it's the nation's capital. Yeah. So I was offered a job to go back to the Pentagon in 2008 for a little while and basically run the integration between national-level intelligence information and local and state and tribal law enforcement.

Yeah, I mean, Jesus Christ, it's the nation's capital. Yeah. So I was offered a job to go back to the Pentagon in 2008 for a little while and basically run the integration between national-level intelligence information and local and state and tribal law enforcement.

So after 9-11, the country realized that we had a significant problem getting national-level information down to the cops on the ground that could actually do something about it. Why? Because they didn't have security clearances. So they weren't allowed to be provided that information. So- One of my jobs was to try to help fix that. And shortly thereafter, I got there in 2008.

So after 9-11, the country realized that we had a significant problem getting national-level information down to the cops on the ground that could actually do something about it. Why? Because they didn't have security clearances. So they weren't allowed to be provided that information. So- One of my jobs was to try to help fix that. And shortly thereafter, I got there in 2008.

So after 9-11, the country realized that we had a significant problem getting national-level information down to the cops on the ground that could actually do something about it. Why? Because they didn't have security clearances. So they weren't allowed to be provided that information. So- One of my jobs was to try to help fix that. And shortly thereafter, I got there in 2008.

It was probably early 2009 is when I was approached by two individuals who came to me and they said, look, we'd like to consider you for a program that we're part of. It's a very nuanced program, very... secretive program. Now, when you're in the government, you hear that all the time. It's not, you know, people look and they say, oh, you have a secret clearance or a top secret clearance.

It was probably early 2009 is when I was approached by two individuals who came to me and they said, look, we'd like to consider you for a program that we're part of. It's a very nuanced program, very... secretive program. Now, when you're in the government, you hear that all the time. It's not, you know, people look and they say, oh, you have a secret clearance or a top secret clearance.

It was probably early 2009 is when I was approached by two individuals who came to me and they said, look, we'd like to consider you for a program that we're part of. It's a very nuanced program, very... secretive program. Now, when you're in the government, you hear that all the time. It's not, you know, people look and they say, oh, you have a secret clearance or a top secret clearance.

Millions of people have some sort of security clearance in the government. And a lot, a lot of people have a top secret clearance. So it's really not that uncommon. It's really not that sexy. So you didn't really know what you were getting involved in? I didn't at all. Not at all. In fact, so, yeah, great question. So, no, I didn't know what I was getting involved in.

Millions of people have some sort of security clearance in the government. And a lot, a lot of people have a top secret clearance. So it's really not that uncommon. It's really not that sexy. So you didn't really know what you were getting involved in? I didn't at all. Not at all. In fact, so, yeah, great question. So, no, I didn't know what I was getting involved in.

Millions of people have some sort of security clearance in the government. And a lot, a lot of people have a top secret clearance. So it's really not that uncommon. It's really not that sexy. So you didn't really know what you were getting involved in? I didn't at all. Not at all. In fact, so, yeah, great question. So, no, I didn't know what I was getting involved in.

And after several conversations, it occurred to me that their interest in me was some of my background I had. In my early career as a special agent in counterintelligence, I was protecting technologies, critical technologies, critical avionic technologies, for example, and some aerospace technologies.