Luis Elizondo

And after several conversations, it occurred to me that their interest in me was some of my background I had. In my early career as a special agent in counterintelligence, I was protecting technologies, critical technologies, critical avionic technologies, for example, and some aerospace technologies.

And after several conversations, it occurred to me that their interest in me was some of my background I had. In my early career as a special agent in counterintelligence, I was protecting technologies, critical technologies, critical avionic technologies, for example, and some aerospace technologies.

So think of first stage solid rocket motor booster technology, Tomahawk cruise missiles, stuff like that, Apache Longbow. So, advanced avionics was something I was kind of already familiar with, and at the same time, I had the counterintelligence background.

So think of first stage solid rocket motor booster technology, Tomahawk cruise missiles, stuff like that, Apache Longbow. So, advanced avionics was something I was kind of already familiar with, and at the same time, I had the counterintelligence background.

So think of first stage solid rocket motor booster technology, Tomahawk cruise missiles, stuff like that, Apache Longbow. So, advanced avionics was something I was kind of already familiar with, and at the same time, I had the counterintelligence background.

So, I was asked to come in and run the counterintelligence and security aspect for a particular program, at which time I had no idea what the program even was. So, what does counterintelligence and security mean? It just simply means making sure that our adversaries like Russia and China can't penetrate our organization and steal our secrets. That's all it is.

So, I was asked to come in and run the counterintelligence and security aspect for a particular program, at which time I had no idea what the program even was. So, what does counterintelligence and security mean? It just simply means making sure that our adversaries like Russia and China can't penetrate our organization and steal our secrets. That's all it is.

So, I was asked to come in and run the counterintelligence and security aspect for a particular program, at which time I had no idea what the program even was. So, what does counterintelligence and security mean? It just simply means making sure that our adversaries like Russia and China can't penetrate our organization and steal our secrets. That's all it is.

It's kind of a fancy word for just saying security, information security and operational security. So, I remember I had a meeting. They brought me to go see their director. And it was in a... I would tell you the location, but I was told by the Pentagon not to say the specific location of this office. But it was somewhere in the D.C. area.

It's kind of a fancy word for just saying security, information security and operational security. So, I remember I had a meeting. They brought me to go see their director. And it was in a... I would tell you the location, but I was told by the Pentagon not to say the specific location of this office. But it was somewhere in the D.C. area.

It's kind of a fancy word for just saying security, information security and operational security. So, I remember I had a meeting. They brought me to go see their director. And it was in a... I would tell you the location, but I was told by the Pentagon not to say the specific location of this office. But it was somewhere in the D.C. area.

It was a facility that wasn't known publicly to be an intelligence, to have an intelligence office in there. So I can't say the specific location. But I went there and I went up to the top floor. I think it was the top floor, almost the top floor. And I met for the first time a gentleman named James Lukatsky, Dr. James Lukatsky, Ph.D. And this guy was the epitome of a rocket scientist.

It was a facility that wasn't known publicly to be an intelligence, to have an intelligence office in there. So I can't say the specific location. But I went there and I went up to the top floor. I think it was the top floor, almost the top floor. And I met for the first time a gentleman named James Lukatsky, Dr. James Lukatsky, Ph.D. And this guy was the epitome of a rocket scientist.

It was a facility that wasn't known publicly to be an intelligence, to have an intelligence office in there. So I can't say the specific location. But I went there and I went up to the top floor. I think it was the top floor, almost the top floor. And I met for the first time a gentleman named James Lukatsky, Dr. James Lukatsky, Ph.D. And this guy was the epitome of a rocket scientist.

And when I say the epitome, I mean he was probably – and there's no exaggeration – the number one rocket scientist in the U.S. government. Now – He's a humble guy, so he'll probably tell you he wasn't. But he really was an amazing human being and very smart. And after a very brief conversation, he looked at me and he said, I want to ask you a question. OK, sir.

And when I say the epitome, I mean he was probably – and there's no exaggeration – the number one rocket scientist in the U.S. government. Now – He's a humble guy, so he'll probably tell you he wasn't. But he really was an amazing human being and very smart. And after a very brief conversation, he looked at me and he said, I want to ask you a question. OK, sir.

And when I say the epitome, I mean he was probably – and there's no exaggeration – the number one rocket scientist in the U.S. government. Now – He's a humble guy, so he'll probably tell you he wasn't. But he really was an amazing human being and very smart. And after a very brief conversation, he looked at me and he said, I want to ask you a question. OK, sir.

And he said, what do you think about UFOs? I said, well, I answered truthfully. I said, I don't. And he said, well, what do you mean? You don't believe in them? And I said, no, that's not what I said. You asked me if I think, you know, what do I think about UFOs? And frankly, I don't think about UFOs. I really don't have the luxury to think about them.

And he said, what do you think about UFOs? I said, well, I answered truthfully. I said, I don't. And he said, well, what do you mean? You don't believe in them? And I said, no, that's not what I said. You asked me if I think, you know, what do I think about UFOs? And frankly, I don't think about UFOs. I really don't have the luxury to think about them.

And he said, what do you think about UFOs? I said, well, I answered truthfully. I said, I don't. And he said, well, what do you mean? You don't believe in them? And I said, no, that's not what I said. You asked me if I think, you know, what do I think about UFOs? And frankly, I don't think about UFOs. I really don't have the luxury to think about them.