Luis Elizondo

I'm too busy, you know, working intelligence operations and whatnot. And I remember him looking over his glasses and saying, very seriously, staring me straight in the eye and says, well, don't let your personal bias get the best of you because what you may learn may surprise you and may challenge any preconceived notion of what you think something is or is not. And so...

I'm too busy, you know, working intelligence operations and whatnot. And I remember him looking over his glasses and saying, very seriously, staring me straight in the eye and says, well, don't let your personal bias get the best of you because what you may learn may surprise you and may challenge any preconceived notion of what you think something is or is not. And so...

I'm too busy, you know, working intelligence operations and whatnot. And I remember him looking over his glasses and saying, very seriously, staring me straight in the eye and says, well, don't let your personal bias get the best of you because what you may learn may surprise you and may challenge any preconceived notion of what you think something is or is not. And so...

Let me backtrack for a minute. I've never been a UFO guy. People come up, like, oh, you're that UFO guy. I'm really not. I was never really into science fiction as a kid. I wasn't into the Star Trek or the Star Wars like a lot of people were. So that was not my disposition. I grew up, I guess, playing G.I. Joe and stuff like that. So that wasn't my background. And certainly in college, I...

Let me backtrack for a minute. I've never been a UFO guy. People come up, like, oh, you're that UFO guy. I'm really not. I was never really into science fiction as a kid. I wasn't into the Star Trek or the Star Wars like a lot of people were. So that was not my disposition. I grew up, I guess, playing G.I. Joe and stuff like that. So that wasn't my background. And certainly in college, I...

Let me backtrack for a minute. I've never been a UFO guy. People come up, like, oh, you're that UFO guy. I'm really not. I was never really into science fiction as a kid. I wasn't into the Star Trek or the Star Wars like a lot of people were. So that was not my disposition. I grew up, I guess, playing G.I. Joe and stuff like that. So that wasn't my background. And certainly in college, I...

I studied microbiology and immunology with a focus on parasitology, not parapsychology, the study of parasites, parasitology. So the scientific method has always been something that has been near and dear to me.

I studied microbiology and immunology with a focus on parasitology, not parapsychology, the study of parasites, parasitology. So the scientific method has always been something that has been near and dear to me.

I studied microbiology and immunology with a focus on parasitology, not parapsychology, the study of parasites, parasitology. So the scientific method has always been something that has been near and dear to me.

And then, of course, later on as a special agent, you know, when you're conducting investigations, for me, I was always very fact-driven, kind of the old gumshoe, if you will, just the facts man sort of guy. So I was never really prone to any type of – if you will, affinity towards science fiction or even the UFO topic. I just, I just never really considered it.

And then, of course, later on as a special agent, you know, when you're conducting investigations, for me, I was always very fact-driven, kind of the old gumshoe, if you will, just the facts man sort of guy. So I was never really prone to any type of – if you will, affinity towards science fiction or even the UFO topic. I just, I just never really considered it.

And then, of course, later on as a special agent, you know, when you're conducting investigations, for me, I was always very fact-driven, kind of the old gumshoe, if you will, just the facts man sort of guy. So I was never really prone to any type of – if you will, affinity towards science fiction or even the UFO topic. I just, I just never really considered it.

Yeah, do the math, right? So it's 2024, 2000, early 2009.

Yeah, do the math, right? So it's 2024, 2000, early 2009.

Yeah, do the math, right? So it's 2024, 2000, early 2009.

Yeah. So great question. So for some people, there's kind of two ways people process this information, at least in my experience. And there may be others. This has just been my observation. Some people have this kind of revelatory moment, this epiphany where it's this aha moment where, oh, my gosh, this is real, right? For other people, it's kind of more of a slow, gradual realization.

Yeah. So great question. So for some people, there's kind of two ways people process this information, at least in my experience. And there may be others. This has just been my observation. Some people have this kind of revelatory moment, this epiphany where it's this aha moment where, oh, my gosh, this is real, right? For other people, it's kind of more of a slow, gradual realization.

Yeah. So great question. So for some people, there's kind of two ways people process this information, at least in my experience. And there may be others. This has just been my observation. Some people have this kind of revelatory moment, this epiphany where it's this aha moment where, oh, my gosh, this is real, right? For other people, it's kind of more of a slow, gradual realization.

And I think for me, I was probably in the second category, more of a slow, gradual realization that – This isn't a cover for something else. This is really about UFOs.

And I think for me, I was probably in the second category, more of a slow, gradual realization that – This isn't a cover for something else. This is really about UFOs.