Luis Elizondo

I think for me one of the most compelling moments was when I attended – Boy, let me go back into memory banks. I attended a dinner with some individuals who were already associated with the larger umbrella program called OSAP. And I attended dinner at a Washington, D.C. hotel, and a Brazilian general attended this dinner. And the dinner was sponsored by a gentleman named Robert Bigelow.

I think for me one of the most compelling moments was when I attended – Boy, let me go back into memory banks. I attended a dinner with some individuals who were already associated with the larger umbrella program called OSAP. And I attended dinner at a Washington, D.C. hotel, and a Brazilian general attended this dinner. And the dinner was sponsored by a gentleman named Robert Bigelow.

I think for me one of the most compelling moments was when I attended – Boy, let me go back into memory banks. I attended a dinner with some individuals who were already associated with the larger umbrella program called OSAP. And I attended dinner at a Washington, D.C. hotel, and a Brazilian general attended this dinner. And the dinner was sponsored by a gentleman named Robert Bigelow.

The famous billionaire hotel. Yeah, I've met him. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, he's he's an American hero. He's a patriot. He's brilliant. He is brilliant. And he's and people don't realize that he funded self-funded a lot of this stuff on behalf of the U.S. government for by himself. Like he paid it to do it himself. He really is an American patriot, in my opinion.

The famous billionaire hotel. Yeah, I've met him. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, he's he's an American hero. He's a patriot. He's brilliant. He is brilliant. And he's and people don't realize that he funded self-funded a lot of this stuff on behalf of the U.S. government for by himself. Like he paid it to do it himself. He really is an American patriot, in my opinion.

The famous billionaire hotel. Yeah, I've met him. Yeah. Yeah. And by the way, he's he's an American hero. He's a patriot. He's brilliant. He is brilliant. And he's and people don't realize that he funded self-funded a lot of this stuff on behalf of the U.S. government for by himself. Like he paid it to do it himself. He really is an American patriot, in my opinion.

But anyways, he flew in this guy named General Uchoa. General Uchoa was a Brazilian general, very, very senior in the Brazilian government, who led an investigation about an event that occurred over several days. Is this the Varginha incident? No, it's actually called Colares. Oh, another one. In Brazil, yeah. And the Colares incident. And they had... an overwhelming number of eyewitnesses.

But anyways, he flew in this guy named General Uchoa. General Uchoa was a Brazilian general, very, very senior in the Brazilian government, who led an investigation about an event that occurred over several days. Is this the Varginha incident? No, it's actually called Colares. Oh, another one. In Brazil, yeah. And the Colares incident. And they had... an overwhelming number of eyewitnesses.

But anyways, he flew in this guy named General Uchoa. General Uchoa was a Brazilian general, very, very senior in the Brazilian government, who led an investigation about an event that occurred over several days. Is this the Varginha incident? No, it's actually called Colares. Oh, another one. In Brazil, yeah. And the Colares incident. And they had... an overwhelming number of eyewitnesses.

And there was even some video and photographs that they had produced internally there to Brazil. And it was overwhelming, the evidence. And for me, it was more listening to him and explain the concern they had and some of the interactions the Brazilian government officials had with these UAP that really I left there that dinner scratching my head and really at that point beginning to absorb

And there was even some video and photographs that they had produced internally there to Brazil. And it was overwhelming, the evidence. And for me, it was more listening to him and explain the concern they had and some of the interactions the Brazilian government officials had with these UAP that really I left there that dinner scratching my head and really at that point beginning to absorb

And there was even some video and photographs that they had produced internally there to Brazil. And it was overwhelming, the evidence. And for me, it was more listening to him and explain the concern they had and some of the interactions the Brazilian government officials had with these UAP that really I left there that dinner scratching my head and really at that point beginning to absorb

the profoundness that we're dealing with something that is real. This is not a cover plan for some other technology we're trying to protect. Did he show you this video evidence? So I was sitting at kind of like a table like this. There was a whole lot of people at the table. He was sitting at the head. I was kind of way down over here.

the profoundness that we're dealing with something that is real. This is not a cover plan for some other technology we're trying to protect. Did he show you this video evidence? So I was sitting at kind of like a table like this. There was a whole lot of people at the table. He was sitting at the head. I was kind of way down over here.

the profoundness that we're dealing with something that is real. This is not a cover plan for some other technology we're trying to protect. Did he show you this video evidence? So I was sitting at kind of like a table like this. There was a whole lot of people at the table. He was sitting at the head. I was kind of way down over here.

And he brought a manila envelope and he was showing photographs to everybody. Right. And some reporting as well. I think he brought, if I recall correctly, his daughter to translate because I don't think English was his, you know, very good. It wasn't his language.

And he brought a manila envelope and he was showing photographs to everybody. Right. And some reporting as well. I think he brought, if I recall correctly, his daughter to translate because I don't think English was his, you know, very good. It wasn't his language.

And he brought a manila envelope and he was showing photographs to everybody. Right. And some reporting as well. I think he brought, if I recall correctly, his daughter to translate because I don't think English was his, you know, very good. It wasn't his language.

But for me, that was and I think for one of my colleagues, too, which I probably can't say his name right now because he hasn't come out publicly yet. But we both left that dinner. And I think scratching our heads and saying, wow, this is legit. This is real. The U.S. government is interested in this. And there is interest by our government.

But for me, that was and I think for one of my colleagues, too, which I probably can't say his name right now because he hasn't come out publicly yet. But we both left that dinner. And I think scratching our heads and saying, wow, this is legit. This is real. The U.S. government is interested in this. And there is interest by our government.