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The reason why it's so difficult to have the conversation here is because our government had placed so much emphasis and interest trying to stigmatize this topic that it almost worked too well. Now we're at the point where we should be having this conversation and people still don't want to because they think it's crazy. You think of tinfoil hats and Elvis on the mothership.

The reason why it's so difficult to have the conversation here is because our government had placed so much emphasis and interest trying to stigmatize this topic that it almost worked too well. Now we're at the point where we should be having this conversation and people still don't want to because they think it's crazy. You think of tinfoil hats and Elvis on the mothership.

But in reality, we're talking about a real national security issue. I mean, these things are here. You have, Joe, you have a former director of national intelligence, Ratcliffe, a former director of CIA. Yeah. Brennan, you have former presidents all coming out and saying, yeah, there's something to it. It's real. Right now, what it is, where it's from and all that stuff.

But in reality, we're talking about a real national security issue. I mean, these things are here. You have, Joe, you have a former director of national intelligence, Ratcliffe, a former director of CIA. Yeah. Brennan, you have former presidents all coming out and saying, yeah, there's something to it. It's real. Right now, what it is, where it's from and all that stuff.

But in reality, we're talking about a real national security issue. I mean, these things are here. You have, Joe, you have a former director of national intelligence, Ratcliffe, a former director of CIA. Yeah. Brennan, you have former presidents all coming out and saying, yeah, there's something to it. It's real. Right now, what it is, where it's from and all that stuff.

I'm not sure we're quite ready to go there yet. But the acknowledgement is, hey, man, yeah, this is real. It's not ours. And we probably should do something about it.

I'm not sure we're quite ready to go there yet. But the acknowledgement is, hey, man, yeah, this is real. It's not ours. And we probably should do something about it.

I'm not sure we're quite ready to go there yet. But the acknowledgement is, hey, man, yeah, this is real. It's not ours. And we probably should do something about it.

Yeah. My understanding is you have to look at where America was at the time they were doing these investigations. It was at the height of the Cold War, right? And despite what some people think, the Cold War wasn't very cold at all. It was pretty hot. And we had Russia and the United States engaging in these proxy wars.

Yeah. My understanding is you have to look at where America was at the time they were doing these investigations. It was at the height of the Cold War, right? And despite what some people think, the Cold War wasn't very cold at all. It was pretty hot. And we had Russia and the United States engaging in these proxy wars.

Yeah. My understanding is you have to look at where America was at the time they were doing these investigations. It was at the height of the Cold War, right? And despite what some people think, the Cold War wasn't very cold at all. It was pretty hot. And we had Russia and the United States engaging in these proxy wars.

Neither side wanted to let the other side know what we had and what we didn't know. Right. So if you have these UAP coming in and out, the last thing you want to do is tell the other side broadcast. This is what we've learned from it. And more importantly, this is what we don't know about it. Right. And so both sides were keeping this very quiet.

Neither side wanted to let the other side know what we had and what we didn't know. Right. So if you have these UAP coming in and out, the last thing you want to do is tell the other side broadcast. This is what we've learned from it. And more importantly, this is what we don't know about it. Right. And so both sides were keeping this very quiet.

Neither side wanted to let the other side know what we had and what we didn't know. Right. So if you have these UAP coming in and out, the last thing you want to do is tell the other side broadcast. This is what we've learned from it. And more importantly, this is what we don't know about it. Right. And so both sides were keeping this very quiet.

But there was an interesting agreement at the classified level, I believe, in the late 60s where. There was this relationship with the United States. We were putting up our northern tier radar system to detect then Soviet Union ICBMs. And they were doing the same thing, right, because none of us really trusted each other.

But there was an interesting agreement at the classified level, I believe, in the late 60s where. There was this relationship with the United States. We were putting up our northern tier radar system to detect then Soviet Union ICBMs. And they were doing the same thing, right, because none of us really trusted each other.

But there was an interesting agreement at the classified level, I believe, in the late 60s where. There was this relationship with the United States. We were putting up our northern tier radar system to detect then Soviet Union ICBMs. And they were doing the same thing, right, because none of us really trusted each other.

But we trusted each other enough to say, look, before you hit that button, if you see something coming over the horizon, before you hit that button and launch, give us a call because – It might be a UFO, right? And we don't want to start World War III because either side mistakes the UFO for an ICBM. And that's how serious they took the topic. I mean, that's real.

But we trusted each other enough to say, look, before you hit that button, if you see something coming over the horizon, before you hit that button and launch, give us a call because – It might be a UFO, right? And we don't want to start World War III because either side mistakes the UFO for an ICBM. And that's how serious they took the topic. I mean, that's real.

But we trusted each other enough to say, look, before you hit that button, if you see something coming over the horizon, before you hit that button and launch, give us a call because – It might be a UFO, right? And we don't want to start World War III because either side mistakes the UFO for an ICBM. And that's how serious they took the topic. I mean, that's real.