Luis Elizondo

That's a real memo that existed between the United States and Russia. So that is an indicator how much both sides took this topic seriously.

That's a real memo that existed between the United States and Russia. So that is an indicator how much both sides took this topic seriously.

That's a real memo that existed between the United States and Russia. So that is an indicator how much both sides took this topic seriously.

I'm aware of the fact that people say it does exist and people have been briefed on it. I wasn't privy to that. I was, again, more focused on the here and now. I was aware of people who had attended certain meetings, very senior level meetings where that was discussed, where they saw certain footage. But I'm hearing that secondhand. I did not see the old footage myself.

I'm aware of the fact that people say it does exist and people have been briefed on it. I wasn't privy to that. I was, again, more focused on the here and now. I was aware of people who had attended certain meetings, very senior level meetings where that was discussed, where they saw certain footage. But I'm hearing that secondhand. I did not see the old footage myself.

I'm aware of the fact that people say it does exist and people have been briefed on it. I wasn't privy to that. I was, again, more focused on the here and now. I was aware of people who had attended certain meetings, very senior level meetings where that was discussed, where they saw certain footage. But I'm hearing that secondhand. I did not see the old footage myself.

My focus was more on the current, what's going on now. But back to your point, why was this effort to try to create so much stigma and taboo? I think it was because of that. I think because you had Russia and U.S. at this weird stalemate where neither one wanted to tell the other side what we know and what we didn't know about UAP.

My focus was more on the current, what's going on now. But back to your point, why was this effort to try to create so much stigma and taboo? I think it was because of that. I think because you had Russia and U.S. at this weird stalemate where neither one wanted to tell the other side what we know and what we didn't know about UAP.

My focus was more on the current, what's going on now. But back to your point, why was this effort to try to create so much stigma and taboo? I think it was because of that. I think because you had Russia and U.S. at this weird stalemate where neither one wanted to tell the other side what we know and what we didn't know about UAP.

And really, I think the focus from a national security perspective, let's say you're a general and I'm a general. Look, we've got a real Cold War going on here right now. As long as these things aren't coming in and zapping my people, that's going to be my focus right now. That's a real potential threat that I have to deal with now.

And really, I think the focus from a national security perspective, let's say you're a general and I'm a general. Look, we've got a real Cold War going on here right now. As long as these things aren't coming in and zapping my people, that's going to be my focus right now. That's a real potential threat that I have to deal with now.

And really, I think the focus from a national security perspective, let's say you're a general and I'm a general. Look, we've got a real Cold War going on here right now. As long as these things aren't coming in and zapping my people, that's going to be my focus right now. That's a real potential threat that I have to deal with now.

I've got Russia pointing nukes at me and I'm pointing nukes at them at any time we could launch. Let's focus on that more so than the other stuff. And that has been my observation on why they didn't want to address the problem, the challenge openly with the general public back. And they also were worried.

I've got Russia pointing nukes at me and I'm pointing nukes at them at any time we could launch. Let's focus on that more so than the other stuff. And that has been my observation on why they didn't want to address the problem, the challenge openly with the general public back. And they also were worried.

I've got Russia pointing nukes at me and I'm pointing nukes at them at any time we could launch. Let's focus on that more so than the other stuff. And that has been my observation on why they didn't want to address the problem, the challenge openly with the general public back. And they also were worried.

There was several studies that suggested that most people would be very uncomfortable with that idea that there's something else in the cosmos potentially or even right here on Earth. And that it would create some sort of societal disruption. Right. They didn't want to cause panic. They were afraid that people would kind of like think of a run on Wall Street. Right.

There was several studies that suggested that most people would be very uncomfortable with that idea that there's something else in the cosmos potentially or even right here on Earth. And that it would create some sort of societal disruption. Right. They didn't want to cause panic. They were afraid that people would kind of like think of a run on Wall Street. Right.

There was several studies that suggested that most people would be very uncomfortable with that idea that there's something else in the cosmos potentially or even right here on Earth. And that it would create some sort of societal disruption. Right. They didn't want to cause panic. They were afraid that people would kind of like think of a run on Wall Street. Right.

When people get panic, they do kind of strange things sometimes. And I think the government was very worried about that. What's the most compelling modern thing that you've seen? Oh, my God. I can't talk about it, unfortunately. This is my frustration, Joe, because I know what I've seen. I know what my colleagues have seen, right?

When people get panic, they do kind of strange things sometimes. And I think the government was very worried about that. What's the most compelling modern thing that you've seen? Oh, my God. I can't talk about it, unfortunately. This is my frustration, Joe, because I know what I've seen. I know what my colleagues have seen, right?