Luis Elizondo

When people get panic, they do kind of strange things sometimes. And I think the government was very worried about that. What's the most compelling modern thing that you've seen? Oh, my God. I can't talk about it, unfortunately. This is my frustration, Joe, because I know what I've seen. I know what my colleagues have seen, right?

And to this day, there's video that's coming in on a regular routine basis that is very, very compelling.

And to this day, there's video that's coming in on a regular routine basis that is very, very compelling.

And to this day, there's video that's coming in on a regular routine basis that is very, very compelling.

Well, we have classified systems. We hide a lot of things.

Well, we have classified systems. We hide a lot of things.

Well, we have classified systems. We hide a lot of things.

So let me backtrack a little bit. This, there's a general public that is filming stuff. But from a Department of Defense perspective, our focus, now Arrow is a different story, but when I was in the government, we had to be very, very careful of something we called intelligence oversight. Back in the 60s and 70s, the U.S. intelligence apparatus, particularly in the Department of Defense,

So let me backtrack a little bit. This, there's a general public that is filming stuff. But from a Department of Defense perspective, our focus, now Arrow is a different story, but when I was in the government, we had to be very, very careful of something we called intelligence oversight. Back in the 60s and 70s, the U.S. intelligence apparatus, particularly in the Department of Defense,

So let me backtrack a little bit. This, there's a general public that is filming stuff. But from a Department of Defense perspective, our focus, now Arrow is a different story, but when I was in the government, we had to be very, very careful of something we called intelligence oversight. Back in the 60s and 70s, the U.S. intelligence apparatus, particularly in the Department of Defense,

was kind of naughty. They were doing things they shouldn't do. They were spying on students and they were spying on American citizens. You don't say. Crazy. Say it isn't so. So Congress passed some laws and said, okay, you can no longer do this kind of stuff on American citizens. You can't conduct intelligence operations on American citizens. You can't do it. It's illegal, right?

was kind of naughty. They were doing things they shouldn't do. They were spying on students and they were spying on American citizens. You don't say. Crazy. Say it isn't so. So Congress passed some laws and said, okay, you can no longer do this kind of stuff on American citizens. You can't conduct intelligence operations on American citizens. You can't do it. It's illegal, right?

was kind of naughty. They were doing things they shouldn't do. They were spying on students and they were spying on American citizens. You don't say. Crazy. Say it isn't so. So Congress passed some laws and said, okay, you can no longer do this kind of stuff on American citizens. You can't conduct intelligence operations on American citizens. You can't do it. It's illegal, right?

So you have Executive Order 12333 and all these other rules and laws and DoD 5240.1 that all come out and say, no mas. So Department of Defense is supposed to focus on military. That's it. You don't bring in U.S. persons' information and ingest them into a Department of Defense database, especially a Department of Defense intelligence database. That's a super no-no. That's called U.S.

So you have Executive Order 12333 and all these other rules and laws and DoD 5240.1 that all come out and say, no mas. So Department of Defense is supposed to focus on military. That's it. You don't bring in U.S. persons' information and ingest them into a Department of Defense database, especially a Department of Defense intelligence database. That's a super no-no. That's called U.S.

So you have Executive Order 12333 and all these other rules and laws and DoD 5240.1 that all come out and say, no mas. So Department of Defense is supposed to focus on military. That's it. You don't bring in U.S. persons' information and ingest them into a Department of Defense database, especially a Department of Defense intelligence database. That's a super no-no. That's called U.S.

Persons Information, and it's pretty much verboten. So our focus was looking specifically at military-sourced information. I was not focusing at all on what the private citizens were seeing because at the end of the day, we couldn't use it. You can't do anything with the data.

Persons Information, and it's pretty much verboten. So our focus was looking specifically at military-sourced information. I was not focusing at all on what the private citizens were seeing because at the end of the day, we couldn't use it. You can't do anything with the data.

Persons Information, and it's pretty much verboten. So our focus was looking specifically at military-sourced information. I was not focusing at all on what the private citizens were seeing because at the end of the day, we couldn't use it. You can't do anything with the data.

Overwhelming. Overwhelming. There's absolutely no doubt that we didn't have to look at civilian data because we had... better collection sensor systems from the military that was looking at stuff and giving us better insight if you can't tell us about can you give us some sort of an understanding of like what you're talking about yeah sure um without being specific yeah let me see um okay yeah um