Lukas Nelson

Right?

But the thing is, is that...

For me, the reward is the high that I get from having discipline.

And I get a – it's a dopamine hit.

And it's just vastly more rewarding than whatever temporary thing I'll get from having a drink.

I don't like drinking that much.

But smoking weed was cool because it put me into a very creative spot and kind of gave me this surge of inspiration, if you will.

But it's bad for my lungs.

There were a lot of ups and downs emotionally.

I'd get high and I'd get low and I'd get high and I'd get low.

And now this clarity that I have is just – it's incredible.

It's this steady sort of joy that I – because I had to face myself too.

When you get clear, you have to – things come up.

And then you look at them and you're like – and things that maybe you didn't want to look at before.

Yeah.

Habits that you had or things in your past that you have to forgive yourself for that you didn't really – they're like floating in the back of your mind as unfinished thoughts.

And so without it, all of that masking, I was able to sit and – I mean look.

I was able to sit and write this record, which is the most clear album I've ever – I wanted to know who I was throughout –

Throughout the – without all the – I didn't want to chase a six-minute guitar solo.

I didn't want to chase – I wanted to just figure out who I was stripped away from all that.