Luke Caverns
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard 27 May
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And, you know, the Zahi thing kind of reminded me of this is like, you know, he has preconceived ideas about his world and his personal beliefs that interact with the archaeology, you know? And so it's really hard for us to, Study the ancient world from a completely unbiased point of view because you have so many preconceived ideas about your modern world that influence your archaeology.
And that's why the widely – that's why there's no widely accepted – or it's not widely accepted among archaeologists – that Native Americans were heavily influenced by hallucinogens.
I really think it's because so many of these people are older archaeologists that have a knee-jerk reaction to drugs of any kind, and they couldn't possibly fathom the reality that the culture they spent their life studying are all doing hallucinogens all the time. Unquestionably.
It's totally obvious. It's completely obvious. Yeah. But, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
It really is, man. I was telling my wife this. I didn't – I don't smoke a lot. When I do, I'm like out in Big Bend, out looking at the stars and stuff. And every time I smoke, it's like some kind of purpose. Like I'm in like some kind of sacred place and I don't do anything harder than just smoke cannabis. But whenever I do, I have some kind of realization about myself personally.
Like the first time –
I don't know six or seven years ago when I first smoked I was laying up looking at the night sky and we had taken some photos out in the desert and I was looking at myself and I put on a little bit of weight and as I was looking at myself I had disassociated and I was like this person does not represent the brain that's in my mind I need to lose some damn weight you know I had this realization on myself the last time I was out I was out in Big Bend laying under the stars in the middle of the desert and and I had this like realization that
You know, all the time I spend traveling and I get to see so many amazing ancient sites and meet so many cool people. And I'm just constantly go, go, go, go, go, go. Like I'm trying to just make this life work. And I had this realization that the most important thing I do is make dinner for my wife and take my dog on walks. And I would have never had that like epiphany.
Like, dude, all this stuff is really cool, but it's for fun. And this is the stuff that you love. Your purpose is to take your dog on walks and spend time with your wife. And one day it's going to be to spend time with your kids. And every time I go into it with this idea that I hope that I have some kind of realization, I always do.
And it's just like I have this – I know that ancient plant medicine is like the key to unlocking so much of the ancient world. And so –
Like, how'd you learn?
Yeah, I know, right?
And then you can take that same chemical and they'll pour it in the water and rather than fishing or spearing fish in the water or hooking them, they pour it into the water and they create these little canals off of the Amazon and fish, piranha, whatever will swim up in it and they pour that liquid wherever that hallucinogen isn't and it stuns the fish and they all come to the top and they only take what they need and they send the rest back.
which is another reason why I don't think that Native Americans are responsible for the extinction of all the megafauna in the Americas. Because, you know, okay, so I'm out in the woods in East Texas a couple weeks ago, and we're just walking around, and we're talking about the Caddo people. Have you heard of the Caddo Indians before?
And I was trying to talk to my friend who doesn't know a lot about Native Americans, trying to, like, tell him, trying to give him the essence of the people. And the words came to me, and I was like, if nature itself took an anthropomorphic form. That's the Native American. These are people that lived perfectly with their environment or tried to, at least most of them did.
And yeah, it's just amazing, man. So much can be learned from that. They did some wasteful things. I know, I know. Like the buffalo jumps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, that's true. And I'm really speaking in generalities. Like I could go on and on about all the horrific things that the Aztecs did. This is just a general – Or the Comanches. Or the Comanches. Did to other Indians.
It's not like this was a – it's not at all like this was a utopia at all.
Exactly. Jaguar is not utopia if you're an antelope. Yeah, yeah, very much so. So, you know, there's some nuance there. But, yeah, I just – I don't know. It's just fascinating. You had a good point in a podcast earlier. I think you were talking about Oriana, his expedition down the Amazon, and you were talking about how he was able to use the stars to navigate back to Spain.
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