Luke Caverns
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first heard Dec 2024
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That flower, uh, emerges from the primordial water to worship the sun and then goes back under every single day. There's something divine about that that separates itself from all the other plant species that these ancient people would have ever noticed. So they would have seen something divine about this. I was talking to Ryan about this last night.
This is the pious chapter of human history where You know, when we were talking about... I see when people talk about vases, what is the common saying that some people use when they say, you know, the precision indicates purpose, or there's something... Yeah, function. Yeah, the precision indicates function. Well, the only issue that I would take with that is...
Sure, sure. So the only issue I would take with that is we're dealing with a different chapter in humanity going back this far. And it's really at the 5th century BC when the Greek philosophers like Socrates, he starts telling the people, telling all the young people around the Agora... You know, if the Greek gods really do exist, they're far away. I don't even know if they exist, honestly.
But here's what I do know. Here's how we can control our lives and make our lives better in this day. The Athenian court did not like that at all. We're dealing... that is the age when the domino, the first domino gets pushed down and we start getting towards this Western mindset of, of function, right? Like before ancient Greece, gears didn't exist.
Gears are a very Western thing, you know, like technology, right? Um, It's kind of the same thing when we talk about the Maya calendar. The Maya calendar gets put into, makes it look like there's these gears that rotate together, I'm sure you've seen before. The Maya didn't view it that way because they didn't have gears. It's a totally, it's ingrained in us functionality.
We are an impious people. We don't, you know, most of us, 50% of us at least, don't believe or know for certainty that there's any God out there. We have a very Socratic approach. We're like, well, you know, if God's really out there, he's far away and distant. It doesn't have a lot to do with our lives, but here's what we can do to control our lives. That began in Athens in the fifth century.
Everything before that is a very pious people. Everything they did was holy, right? So that's, as a little side note, that's one of the things I would say, I was telling Ryan, I was like, you know, I don't know, and to my Western mind, it sounds disappointing to say it, but I just wonder if the perfection of the vases isn't because the vase themselves is holy in some way. It has to be perfect.
It's for the God or whatever. We're just dealing with people that are so different than us, and they exist on the other chapter of humanity where life is based about the gods. All right, so getting back to this. So Egyptians would have noticed this
this lotus cycle as being a clearly divine cycle as far back we know as at least 12,500 BC when the first ancestors of the dynastic Egyptians arrived in the Dakhla Oasis. Now you had people in Egypt long before that, we have bodies that are 30,000 years old, but people really, really start arriving we can detect around 12,500 years ago. People started arriving in Egypt and arriving and staying.
Sometimes people would arrive and then the people would die or they'd move on to somewhere else, but these people were staying.
Yeah, I think the beginning of pre-dynastic Egypt, they only put that, that's pretty recent. It's like 4,000 B.C., So, but, but these people that are arriving like in the Dakhla oasis, when we find their bodies and burials, they have the same genetic makeup as dynastic people.
So these are people who are arriving in Egypt and they're not leaving, but we have other bodies of people 30,000 years ago that have nothing in common with Egyptians. And so we think that these were people who arrived and then most of them left, but this dude died here. So he got buried, if that makes sense.
Right. Exactly. Exactly. Um, yeah, I, so I think that definitely it's a, it's a beautiful place to live and always was, even when the Sahara is green and you would have people living there, but, but they weren't forced to stay there. So they, so they leave, right?
Like we have, we have evidence of, um, of Homo erectus, you know, this, uh, cousin of, of us Homo sapiens that were living there as well.
and then you have these uh semi-nomadic people that we can tell were they would set up camp in one place and then 100 years later we see evidence of them in another place but they're not at the old place there's not two contemporaneous locations and then they disappear from the archaeological record so they just left egypt because there's more green area somewhere else but as the sahara is drying up you only you can only live along the nile that's this you know
500-yard strip of land on the east, 500-yard strip of land on the west. That's this incredibly fertile oasis. You know, we have this idea of Egyptians living in the desert. They didn't live in the desert. They lived in the fertile oasis on the Green Nile, walking on grass every single day. These were filthy, filthy rich people. Yeah.
Um, so they would have noticed this sacred cycle of this blue Lotus going up and down. And this Lotus becomes basically the central, it becomes the central image of Egyptian society. It's on all their columns. It's in, um, it becomes the very symbol of life itself in ancient Egypt. It's symbolic of life. Um, there's an interpretation that sometimes when the
When they have the lotus up to their nose or when they have the lotus blooming, hanging over their head, it means the person's alive. But when the lotus is hanging over their head and it's closed, it means that the person has died. It seems like the lotus permeates all aspects of Egyptian society and it has multiple effects on you when you consume it, maybe depending on how you consume it as well.
And it's like this wonder drug. And it has a sacred element about it where it rises every single day to worship the sun. The Egyptians are a sun worshiping cult. That's what they do. You know, that's why all their tombs are on the west side of the Nile because the sun is born in the east and it dies in the west.
So, you know, the saying that we have when people die, when they say, oh, they've gone west, we get that from the Egyptians. Um, so they're a sun worshiping culture. Everything is about the sun for the Egyptians and they're watching this flower worship the sun too. And then the flower becomes the very symbol of life, death, resurrection. Okay. Ryan, pull up a satellite image of Egypt.
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