Luke Caverns

And I was trying to talk to my friend who doesn't know a lot about Native Americans, trying to, like, tell him, trying to give him the essence of the people. And the words came to me, and I was like, if nature itself took an anthropomorphic form. That's the Native American. These are people that lived perfectly with their environment or tried to, at least most of them did.

And I was trying to talk to my friend who doesn't know a lot about Native Americans, trying to, like, tell him, trying to give him the essence of the people. And the words came to me, and I was like, if nature itself took an anthropomorphic form. That's the Native American. These are people that lived perfectly with their environment or tried to, at least most of them did.

And yeah, it's just amazing, man. So much can be learned from that. They did some wasteful things. I know, I know. Like the buffalo jumps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, that's true. And I'm really speaking in generalities. Like I could go on and on about all the horrific things that the Aztecs did. This is just a general – Or the Comanches. Or the Comanches. Did to other Indians.

And yeah, it's just amazing, man. So much can be learned from that. They did some wasteful things. I know, I know. Like the buffalo jumps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, that's true. And I'm really speaking in generalities. Like I could go on and on about all the horrific things that the Aztecs did. This is just a general – Or the Comanches. Or the Comanches. Did to other Indians.

And yeah, it's just amazing, man. So much can be learned from that. They did some wasteful things. I know, I know. Like the buffalo jumps. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, that's true. And I'm really speaking in generalities. Like I could go on and on about all the horrific things that the Aztecs did. This is just a general – Or the Comanches. Or the Comanches. Did to other Indians.

It's not like this was a – it's not at all like this was a utopia at all.

It's not like this was a – it's not at all like this was a utopia at all.

It's not like this was a – it's not at all like this was a utopia at all.

Exactly. Jaguar is not utopia if you're an antelope. Yeah, yeah, very much so. So, you know, there's some nuance there. But, yeah, I just – I don't know. It's just fascinating. You had a good point in a podcast earlier. I think you were talking about Oriana, his expedition down the Amazon, and you were talking about how he was able to use the stars to navigate back to Spain.

Exactly. Jaguar is not utopia if you're an antelope. Yeah, yeah, very much so. So, you know, there's some nuance there. But, yeah, I just – I don't know. It's just fascinating. You had a good point in a podcast earlier. I think you were talking about Oriana, his expedition down the Amazon, and you were talking about how he was able to use the stars to navigate back to Spain.

Exactly. Jaguar is not utopia if you're an antelope. Yeah, yeah, very much so. So, you know, there's some nuance there. But, yeah, I just – I don't know. It's just fascinating. You had a good point in a podcast earlier. I think you were talking about Oriana, his expedition down the Amazon, and you were talking about how he was able to use the stars to navigate back to Spain.

And you were like, well, you know, that's what people used to do. Everybody was an astronomer. How much of this experience has gone to us today? We don't sit around and look at the stars anymore. And that's one aspect. We don't interact with natural plant-based hallucinogens anymore. There's so many things about the natural world that we don't interact. with.

And you were like, well, you know, that's what people used to do. Everybody was an astronomer. How much of this experience has gone to us today? We don't sit around and look at the stars anymore. And that's one aspect. We don't interact with natural plant-based hallucinogens anymore. There's so many things about the natural world that we don't interact. with.

And you were like, well, you know, that's what people used to do. Everybody was an astronomer. How much of this experience has gone to us today? We don't sit around and look at the stars anymore. And that's one aspect. We don't interact with natural plant-based hallucinogens anymore. There's so many things about the natural world that we don't interact. with.

And so many of these people who still today exist in the natural world like the wild, you know, Percy Fawcett interacting with these Amazonian tribes that still live like this today. These people are still around. They're still existing.

And so many of these people who still today exist in the natural world like the wild, you know, Percy Fawcett interacting with these Amazonian tribes that still live like this today. These people are still around. They're still existing.

And so many of these people who still today exist in the natural world like the wild, you know, Percy Fawcett interacting with these Amazonian tribes that still live like this today. These people are still around. They're still existing.

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