Luke Caverns
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first heard Dec 2024
last heard 27 May
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And I put the former is probably the more accurate one, that Minoan religion may have been derivative of Egyptian religion and that society may have been inspired by Egypt. I think that one's probably more true, even though they have so many peculiarities.
That's an unknown.
Yes. They can as well. They can be. But the limited research that's been done is that they're even more mild. They think it'd be even more mild than the ones that were on the Nile.
Yeah. So I say all that to say that
It's really cool. So we have scant evidence all the way around, but highly likely that the chemicals that are in the lotus flower, people were using it to get horny. They're using it in these sex parties. They're using it as a sexual stimulant. And that the people off the coast of Tunisia that Odysseus met,
according to the story, it was having some kind of effect on them that was making them not care about anything. So it has this sort of multipurpose thing. Also, the researchers in the 90s proposed that it had properties that would help preserve your youthfulness. And there's another source that attests to this. I think that's probably worth bringing up right now.
Okay, so Ryan, I sent you a photo that it's a little bit blurry and it's some hieroglyphs that are on a temple wall. There's no lotus flower actually depicted in the photo. There you go. All right. So this is on a Ptolemaic temple. I believe it is the temple of Edfu. And there's a British archaeologist who translated this. And essentially, one part that we're taking from this
is this is, I believe it's Ptolemy X. This is a Greek pharaoh ruling during the Greek dynasties. So you have the Ptolemaic dynasties, which is the last chapter. I believe this goes from three, well, let's start with Alexander. So 332 to 30 BC. So about 302 years of this dynasty. It begins with Alexander. It ends with Cleopatra's death. This is Ptolemy X, I believe. That's his hand.
He's holding this- Got a funky hand. Holding this scepter. Yeah. Greek Egyptian art gets real funky. They have these pudgy spaghetti arms. And then the real elegant Old Kingdom and Middle Kingdom Egyptian artwork, wall art, is completely gone. It's this weird phase. And the hieroglyphs get very, very complicated. Yeah.
But we get a really interesting anecdote here, where on this wall, Ptolemy says he's essentially giving an offering of the lotus flower to the god Amun. And he tells Amun, he's describing the experience of the lotus flower, and he says when you take of the lotus flower, or when you sniff of it, you take of it, Um, your mind expands and your eyes become imbued with dynamic properties.
That's the, that's the direct translation. And then it goes on to talk about like the holy aspects of the flower. And I was like, your mind expands, your eyes become imbued with dynamic properties. Wow. So we're having it. It's affecting the psychological state. It's affecting, you know, clearly, you know, when you're high, you get a little bit loopy.
And then it's also has this has this vigor aspect to it. So it's making you like sexually strong. It's having the psychological effect on you. It's having a visual effect on you as well. This is like a drug that's doing quite a lot. And then it got even deeper. Ryan, if you'd go back to my paper.
Ah, man, I know, right?
Okay, so Egypt and the Lotus. Let's go back 12,000 years to the first Egyptians that are arriving, that we know of, that are arriving in the Dakhla Oasis. They're migrating in from the greater Sahara. The Sahara is drying up.
people are moving to the mediterranean coast they're moving to the atlantic coast they're moving down into the congo or in the savannas today they only have a few options but but there's also this option of this really fertile yet congested nile valley uh off to off to the east and so you know anywhere from 12 000 years ago uh to just 6 000 years ago people are moving into the nile
And this is probably worth touching on. This is why the deeper I've gotten into this, the more I think like, okay, there's an interesting argument here that I've never seen an academic make. These are ideas that I've come up with myself. It's kind of like I look at ancient Egypt like New York City. You have this huge influx of people arriving in this new land.
You have New York City, which for whatever reason is this limited amount of space where everything is happening. And something like that with all that energy and all that investment is either destined to fall or it's destined to be greatness, right? The Nile is sort of similar to that. As the Sahara is drying up, you have all these people who are pushed into this small compacted area.
You can't have miles and miles and miles to take your cattle around and feed in all this random grass and set up camp everywhere and just live off of the land. You have to form a sedentary lifestyle and people are packed on top of each other. So that's how they're destined to fail miserably or be an enormous success.
maybe a success so great in such a fertile place that it creates a civilization that's powerful enough to create the world's largest structures before human history and other civilizations are even doing anything. They're all, you know, around the ancient world, everybody else for the most part are still cavemen when the pyramids are being built at the pyramid's youngest date, you know?
And so I just find that fascinating. But so you have Egyptians rising, uh, arriving in Egypt. And one of the first things that they would notice as they're going down to the Nile all throughout the day is they would have known noticed this flower. So I write, uh, the Egyptian blue Lotus rises from the depths of the Nile blooms to worship the sun and descends back into the river every single day.
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