Luke Kemeys

I find it very hard to relate to that now that I do something, like I'm the other way.

It's like, hey man, can you just sit down and not do any work for a bit?

Also not always that healthy.

But I think we've got to be, if you aren't enjoying what you're doing, I think if you can try and find a way to tidy that up to start with, there's a big win there.

But also, you know, I read about people who do retire and then they struggle with anxiety or how do I fit in or how do I contribute, you know, what I want to do.

So again, I think these are like confronting things, but maybe the fire thing has been like a sexy way to get people thinking about it.

How realistic is it for people?

I mean, obviously the content creators are probably always going to be

the outliers, I guess, that are talking about it.

But there's a very staunch movement in that space.

And I think the underlying principles are right.

Like if I didn't like what I was doing, I'd be trying to retire as well.

You know, I'd be trying to stack every dollar or build a plan to get out of that because I didn't enjoy it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think as well, just to add to that, like, you know, it's my first time to the Shearzy's office today down here and I witnessed a pretty large team meeting and, you know, I don't work in these environments.

So it was inspiring for me to see everybody's like working on this, on something.

And it's cool to see, right?

And I think everyone romanticizes about retiring, but I think that's,

They need to be honest with themselves.