Luke Kemeys

What do they do with it?

You think about getting that iPad, Luke.

If you look at a lot of the education stats as well, going forward in terms of attendance, how we stack up to other OECD countries in terms of math and English and those sort of things, the numbers aren't good either.

So you go, well, right now we've got a problem.

And you look at, okay, well, where are 17-year-olds now?

And fast forward a decade, it doesn't look like those numbers are going in the right direction either.

Yeah, I do think as well, like,

Cooper who's three and a half, Bowden who's three months, your baby who's only a couple of months old as well.

What's their first job going to look like?

Are they going to have a job?

And then whatever...

Crazy, like when I say Cooper's going to be five next year, like when he goes to school, what are they going to teach him and how relevant is it going to be to the world that he's going to go into?

I do want to move into how do we fix this and not just be like everything's shit and we're screwed.

I do have one more question though on the everything's shit and we're screwed kind of mentality, which is the tall poppy syndrome, which I think is –

I think has a huge piece when we're talking about like I go to the bar and I talk about what I'm doing and then the whole conversation shuts down compared to other parts of the world, especially the US where it's like, yeah, the American dream and like you go for it and you go get everything you can get opposed to like everybody tends to talk themselves down.

How big of an issue is tall poppy syndrome?

But if I hadn't done that.

Show me a check for $75,000 last month.

I can't quit my job.

Come work for you right now.