Luke Kemeys

I've done that before.

Yeah, I think when there's a lot of people who will tell you why you can't do something, but to the example of the sweater, there's not enough people telling you why.

I want to switch it though, boys.

Let's move towards how we fix this.

Because I've come here not to bitch.

I've come here for ideas.

It's obviously quite a complicated problem.

Otherwise, it would have been fixed.

Let me start with a very controversial one.

What is the government's role in...

in turning the economy around and fixing these issues.

It's an interesting concept, Simon, if like,

all small business owners felt had some incentive to hire that extra person, hire that piece of machinery, the impact on New Zealand would be monstrous.

You know, like, come.

How do I learn from you?

It's actually a really interesting point around like one of the worst things that happened, I think, in New Zealand was like how we just shut down the country and didn't let people in and kind of just like became hermit crabs to an extent.

But like if you had people rocking into New Zealand with like $100 million and then they didn't just bring their capital and, you know, use it in the country day to day, but also they were like, oh, yeah.

Like, I'll mentor you.

Like, I'll set up something like Mahesh, who's done in terms of phase one and uses experience at Canva to mentor young New Zealand entrepreneurs.

Like, the impact of that would be huge.