Luke Tryl

But I think you're right.

I think it was thematic.

Also, the other problem, and I say problem, that's really unfair.

It's a democracy, you know.

But the other...

effect of having six people on the stage is is that it is difficult to get into a great deal of detail at all on anything yeah um alex of course you host a debate every single week around the uk on any questions um rather than just at election time but you had an episode in scotland

And just look on this cost of living point, which is at the top of every survey of what people care about the most everywhere in the UK at the moment.

Are there ways of thinking about what the cost of living is actually as an issue?

Because I think we just assume it's things being expensive, but there's more to it than that, isn't there?

There is.

It's a sense that, you know, whenever we chat to people in all of our Scottish focus groups, it's the first issue that comes up way above, say, the constitutional question or anything like that.

It is this sense that people are going backwards, that progress that people thought they made hasn't been made.

You know, I had one person in the focus group who said, you know, I actually earn more than both of my parents earn put together, and yet I'm not going to be able to get on the housing ladder.

So, yes...

It's things like the weekly shop, the price of energy.

They're the immediate things.

But there's this deeper sense that it is too hard in Britain at the moment, across England, Scotland and Wales, to live a good life.

And I think it's that deeper sense of a broken social contract almost.

I would go that far, the cost of living crisis.

I think that's what it makes people think.