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Lulu Garcia Navarro

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1558 total appearances

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'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

Yeah, it's sort of like the publication that you cite gets cited by other reputable sources, that it issues corrections when it gets things wrong.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

And Wikipedia also is famously open source.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

It's decentralized and essentially it's run by thousands of volunteer editors.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

You don't run Wikipedia, we should say.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

How do those editors fix disputes when they don't agree on what facts to be included or on how something is written?

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

How do you negotiate those differences?

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

Yeah, and basically every page has what's called a talk tab where you can see the history of the discussions and the disputes, which relates to another principle of the site, which is transparency.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

You can look at everything and see who did what and what their reasoning was.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

What you're saying is supported actually by a study about Wikipedia that came out in the science journal Nature in 2019.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

It's called The Wisdom of Polarized Crowds.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

Perhaps counterintuitively, it says that politically contentious Wikipedia pages end up being of higher quality, meaning that they're more evidence-based, they have more consensus around them.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

But I do want to ask about the times when consensus building isn't necessarily easy as it relates to specific topics on Wikipedia.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

Some pages, they have actually restricted editing privileges.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

So the Arab-Israeli conflict, climate change, abortion, unsurprising topics there.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

Why are those restricted and why doesn't the wisdom of polarized crowds work for those subjects?

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

This brings me to some of the challenges.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

Wikipedia, while it has created this very trustworthy system, it is under attack from a lot of different places.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

And one of Wikipedia's sort of superpowers can also be seen as a vulnerability, right?

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

The fact that it is created by human editors.

The Daily
'The Interview': Jimmy Wales Thinks the World Should Be More Like Wikipedia

And human editors can be threatened, even though they're supposed to be anonymous.