Lulu Garcia Navarro

How did you understand their relationship?

Was it love?

Was it money?

Was it both?

Do you think she will?

You know, in the early 2010s, when you oversaw The Daily Beast, you ran one of the first national series on the Epstein stories.

Yes.

And you noted, after you wrote about that period, that they didn't really stick at the time.

You know, one of the stories in that series that you ran was headlined, Epstein Society Friends Close Ranks.

And it's a chilling story, actually, having read it recently.

Someone in the piece said, a jail sentence doesn't matter anymore.

The only thing that gets you shunned in New York is

This is how you knew about it.

Well, you bring up someone who, again, is in the news, which is Prince Andrew.

And one of your other specialties is the royal family.

You've written books about that.

The case that you make in the palace papers, which I found really interesting, is that peripheral royals are...

a real problem for the royal family because they're more susceptible to getting into unsavory entanglements because they have no money, but they have a lot of influence and they have a lot of cachet and people want pay for play.

And so you've seen sort of iterations of this throughout the history of the royal family.

You know, it's pretty well understood that when William becomes king, he wants to sort of sweep house and make a lot of changes.