Lulu Garcia Navarro

And now in her 30s, her mega hit Flowers spent weeks on top of the charts and won her her first Grammy. She just released her ninth album, Something Beautiful. It's ambitious and personal, and it's also her first visual album. The lead single is End of the World. Miley and I spoke in person in New York when she was in town for the Met Gala.

And now in her 30s, her mega hit Flowers spent weeks on top of the charts and won her her first Grammy. She just released her ninth album, Something Beautiful. It's ambitious and personal, and it's also her first visual album. The lead single is End of the World. Miley and I spoke in person in New York when she was in town for the Met Gala.

And we went to some unexpected places, talking about her close relationships with her mom Tish and her godmother Dolly Parton, a revelation she had while undergoing trauma therapy, and how she's learned to protect herself in a world that is still fascinated by everything she does. Here's my conversation with Miley Cyrus.

And we went to some unexpected places, talking about her close relationships with her mom Tish and her godmother Dolly Parton, a revelation she had while undergoing trauma therapy, and how she's learned to protect herself in a world that is still fascinated by everything she does. Here's my conversation with Miley Cyrus.

I like you. And what is your favorite key? He was right, G and C. Uh-huh. All right. We're going to talk a little bit about the past. We're going to talk a little bit about, obviously, your new music. So we're just going to wander. If at any point you feel whatever, you want to take a break, by all means. I appreciate it.

I like you. And what is your favorite key? He was right, G and C. Uh-huh. All right. We're going to talk a little bit about the past. We're going to talk a little bit about, obviously, your new music. So we're just going to wander. If at any point you feel whatever, you want to take a break, by all means. I appreciate it.

Okay, good.

Okay, good.

Oh, we like it.

Oh, we like it.

No, we never saw each other because I was at NPR.

No, we never saw each other because I was at NPR.

I was a new host back then. I hadn't done a lot of celebrity interviews. And you came on and said, ask me anything. Anything at all. No holds barred. And I had no idea what to do with that. I literally just froze and thought, I don't know what to what to ask Miley Cyrus if she's saying, ask me anything.

I was a new host back then. I hadn't done a lot of celebrity interviews. And you came on and said, ask me anything. Anything at all. No holds barred. And I had no idea what to do with that. I literally just froze and thought, I don't know what to what to ask Miley Cyrus if she's saying, ask me anything.

And I was wondering, as I've watched you kind of evolve, if you would say something like that now starting an interview.

And I was wondering, as I've watched you kind of evolve, if you would say something like that now starting an interview.

I'd love for you to explain what that means for you now, when you have this idea of being in control and being safe and understanding what your own boundaries are and how you interact with people.

I'd love for you to explain what that means for you now, when you have this idea of being in control and being safe and understanding what your own boundaries are and how you interact with people.

You know, you have been famous forever, it feels like. And these past few years have been absolutely huge for you. Last year, you won your first Grammy for your song Flowers off your last album. And you exuded so much joy and so much gratitude at that moment.

You know, you have been famous forever, it feels like. And these past few years have been absolutely huge for you. Last year, you won your first Grammy for your song Flowers off your last album. And you exuded so much joy and so much gratitude at that moment.