Lulu Garcia Navarro
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The Daily · 'The Interview': Antony Blinken Insists He and Biden Made the Right Calls · 4 Jan 2025
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He doesn't seem terribly interested in the work of diplomacy. I'm curious both how you would define that foreign policy philosophy and what you think of that approach.
I mean, it's not that he wants to stand back. It's that he uses other methods to make countries bend to America's will. You're seeing some of these actions.
So do you think then that President-elect Trump's plan to place heavy tariffs on Chinese goods up to possibly 60 percent blanket tariffs, also to place tariffs on our allies, Canada and other countries, is that misguided? Yeah.
Yes, the Biden administration had their own.
Just one last question on China. You know, one of the things that I have been curious about is – How the world sees the whiplash of our foreign policy just changing from one administration to the other so dramatically. You know, how do you think China, for example, sees our increasingly inconsistent foreign policy during the last decade that has seemed to just go from one extreme to the other?
Are they exploiting it or are they concerned about it?
After the break, I talk with Secretary Blinken about the war in Gaza.
I do want to turn to what has become the defining crisis of this era, which is the conflict in Gaza. You came in thinking you could broker a historic agreement between Saudi Arabia and Israel. And then Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th with the horrific results which we saw. And Israel's response has been extreme. The latest UN figures put the Palestinian death toll at 45,000.
Over 90% of Gaza's population is now displaced. The population is starving. All hospitals have been destroyed. In November, a UN committee released a report that found Israel's warfare practices, quote, "...consistent with the characteristics of genocide." I know you don't agree with that estimation, but do you believe that Israel's actions have been consistent with the rules of war?
While destroying the territory. I mean, there's huge suffering.
I mean, even Israel's former defense minister, Moshe Alon, referred to what's happening in Gaza as war crimes and ethnic cleansing. I mean, this is internal criticism. This is not external. So I guess I would repeat the question and ask you, has Israel respected the rules of war in Gaza?
Because as you know, withholding food aid is considered a war crime. And so what you're saying to me is that actually they didn't want to even provide food.
You know, what we've seen in Gaza is fairly indiscriminate. We have seen reporting of absolute devastation, entire areas flattened. And at the crux of this, of course, is the fact that the United States provides so many of these weapons to Israel. The 2,000-pound bombs that have killed Palestinian civilians, they get vetted through the State Department.
And I know that the administration's been struggling with this the whole way through. But where we are now is that the war is still being prosecuted. Hamas is no longer deemed a threat in the way that it was. And the population has been completely decimated. So I'm curious, why still provide these weapons to Israel?
Well, there were moments when it seemed you were trying to draw red lines in public, telling Israel not to go into Rafah, for example. And then they did.
Benjamin Netanyahu never seemed to listen to you, though.
Did you have a partner in Benjamin Netanyahu? Because it was reported that he blocked a ceasefire deal in July that would have led to the hostages being released. Is that true?
I do want to ask you about your own standing in the department that you lead because you've had a series of very public defections over the conduct at the State Department over Gaza. The latest to speak out is Mike Casey, who was the State Department's deputy political counselor on Gaza and resigned in July.
He recently talked to The Guardian about his tenure, and he claimed that the State Department frequently rolled over for Israel, that no one would read his reports on civilian casualties. He said that he and his colleagues would joke that they could staple cash to the reports, and still they would fall on deaf ears. That's very dark. How do you respond to that?
Do you think there's still hostages alive?
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