Lulu Miller

After the break, we have one more exploration of music.

Stay with us.

And, you know, since we are in a music mode, I just wanted to tell you about a favorite show right here at our home station, WNYC, called New Sounds.

They have been on the air for decades, and their small team of John Schaefer and Karen Havlick combed through music released from all over the world.

to bring you such a delightful and eclectic mix of musical goodies, just like Juana Molina or Dawn of Midi, that kind of stuff.

So if you want something on in the background to unwind to, to refresh your repertoire while you cook or run or, I don't know, contemplate some profound mathematical theory, I highly recommend you check them out.

Here's a little sample of their vibe.

Here's one of their promos.

If you're in New York, you can listen to Old School live on the radio on 93.9 every weeknight at 11 p.m.

Or you can find tons of episodes online at wnyc.org slash shows slash new sounds.

See you next week for a story where music quietly returns to the background.

Thanks for listening.

This is Radiolab.

I'm Lulu Miller.

Over the last few months, as we've been watching public lands come under peril, massive cuts to the National Park Service, proposals to sell off millions of acres of public lands being debated, I keep thinking about this one moment in a piece I reported about 15 years ago in a kitchen in rural Michigan.

I encountered one of the best defenses of conservation I've ever heard.

And it came from such an unexpected person that it was almost like a jump scare.

Anyway, I'm saying too much.

So I'm going to turn it over now to OG host of this here program, Jada Boomrod, for a story we called Weighing Good Intentions.

It's in a little town in northern Michigan called Mayo.