Maddy Kearns
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31 appearances
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard Jan 2025
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And so if you just imagine, you know, talk about cruel and unusual punishment, just being in a confined space with with men who who may have assaulted other women could potentially assault you. You've been assaulted in the past. I mean, that's just you know, it's it's really unjust on just so many levels.
Well, it was very, very difficult to get in contact with Rhonda. As you might imagine, the president weren't all that keen on her talking to journalists. I did manage to speak to her. I won't say how exactly, but I wasn't able to consult with her after the trial. But I know that her lawyer is thrilled at this result. Well, not the result of the case, of course, but...
thrilled with Trump's policy. And I think it certainly is a morale boost for a lot of women who have been trying to fight about this for years. And I think the other thing as well is, you know, the American public have really woken up to this issue in a big way. But actually, prisons is a fairly, you know, it's fairly small fish to a lot of people because, you know, they're thinking about sports.
They're thinking about what's going on with children. They're not necessarily thinking about women's prisons. It's a kind of niche population. And so it's been all the harder for them to get people to pay attention, get people to care.
And I think that, you know, they're hopeful that with the change of administration, with this new focus on it, that they're going to get some attention and rightfully get the public behind them.
Yeah, it's interesting, Megan. I'm from the UK, and I know this issue has played out slightly differently over there, and there's been a lot of feminists and voices on the left who have been very critical of the transgender policy agenda. And a lot of them are saying, you know, they don't particularly like Trump, but they're saying, you know, you've got to hand it to him, like...
where was our side when we needed them? Like it's really been him that's delivered this and protected women and unexpectedly perhaps or ironically even, but you're right. I mean, it's kind of the results do speak for themselves and it's hard to imagine how that executive order could have been written more strongly or more clearly. It just completely-
Yeah, it just completely made it, you know, that look, we're going to talk about sex. That's what our policies and our laws should be rooted in. We're not even going to like waste ink on this gender identity stuff. It's just not relevant. It's not relevant to what we're dealing with. We're dealing with women's sex-based rights, women's sex-based protections, and we are going to uphold that.
And I think it was, like I say, you know, a big morale boost for a lot of women, not just in the United States, but everywhere.
Yeah, no, I think that's exactly right. I've been reporting on this since 2018 and it's actually amazing just how far it's come in terms of public awareness, in terms of, you know, people just having the confidence to say, actually, you know, heck, I'm going to use sex-based language. I mean, I know you had this moment yourself, Megan, where you just thought... you know what? Game's over.
I played nice. It didn't work out. I'm just going to say what I think. And I think that has been so powerful. And so many people now are just free and feel free to speak the truth. And that in itself just changes a lot of minds.
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