True Dangers of Men in Women's Prisons, as Trump Drives Change - Deep Dive with Maddy Kearns | Ep. 989
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to The Megan Kelly Show. In today's AM bonus episode, the ramifications of Trump's executive order defending women from gender ideology, extremism and restoring biological truth to the federal government are being celebrated all over the country and certainly right here at the MK show. Female prisoners also have reason to celebrate. Men cannot be housed in female prisons any longer. And thank God, because one journalist recently detailed a shocking story of one female inmate's journey and trial over being housed with men. And it completely underscores how just and needed Trump's order was and how disgusting Obama, Biden and Harris were. in insisting that this be allowed to happen. Maddie Kearns is associate editor now at The Free Press, and she joins me now.
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Sure. Her name is Rhonda Fleming. She's serving a 27-year sentence for Medicare fraud in the federal prison system. And she's been in there since 2009, so before the Obama era policy got into play. And really since then, she's been housed with multiple men in various federal prisons throughout the country. And she's been trying to protest this. She's been trying to fight for women only spaces in prisons for a long time. She had a lawsuit that was unsuccessful in 2017. The Trump administration first time round did roll back some of this stuff, but they certainly haven't been as forceful as they've been this time. And then she just had this recent lawsuit against the Biden administration, which once again allowed much more permissive policies. And that lawsuit was held in district court in Florida on the 14th of January. And the judge ruled against her and found that her claim that being housed with two men violated her constitutional right to bodily privacy.
He found that this wasn't persuasive because she did have access to some shower curtains and partitions in the restrooms and so on. And so he ruled against her. Now, I spoke to her lawyer on Friday and he said to me, well, we're hoping that she won't have to appeal or at least that the appeal won't all depend on the appeal because hopefully Trump will come in and change the policy. And it looks like he got his wish because we broke the story on Sunday that that is exactly what Trump has done with his new executive order.
So who was defending the lawsuit, the Bureau of Prisons, the Federal Bureau of Prisons?
That's right. So it was Erica Strong was the warden at Tallahassee, the federal prison in Tallahassee. And she was in her official capacity as a representative for the Federal Bureau of Prisons. So it was a lawsuit against the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
And so was it the feds, was it the DOJ representing the Federal Bureau of Prisons?
Yeah, so it's exactly, it goes up to the DOJ. And so this was a policy from the top down. So it started under Obama in 2012, the Department of Justice under Obama issued this transgender prisoners offender manual. And in that they said, you know, we don't have to base this on sex. We can base this on gender identity.
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