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Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

Why don't we let you sell this to their government? And then we get a backdoor into the government and this guy gets to make some money, right? Wow. And one of the people who gets tapped as a result of this program, because they want to sell promise to Iraq, Libya and several other Middle Eastern countries. And this is hard. So they enlist the help of a Mossad guy named Rafi Aytan.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

And that guy in the Mossad is like, maybe a guy at the Mossad isn't the best dude to sell to Iraq. But you know who can sell shit to anybody? Yeah. Bobby Maxwell, Baby. Und das ist, wo er in das kommt, richtig? Gordon Thomas, der Autor dieses Israel-Super-Spy-Buches, er ist der Grund, warum Maxwell eine halbe Billion in Lizenzen macht. Ich weiรŸ nicht, wie viel Maxwell wirklich macht.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

And that guy in the Mossad is like, maybe a guy at the Mossad isn't the best dude to sell to Iraq. But you know who can sell shit to anybody? Yeah. Bobby Maxwell, Baby. Und das ist, wo er in das kommt, richtig? Gordon Thomas, der Autor dieses Israel-Super-Spy-Buches, er ist der Grund, warum Maxwell eine halbe Billion in Lizenzen macht. Ich weiรŸ nicht, wie viel Maxwell wirklich macht.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

And that guy in the Mossad is like, maybe a guy at the Mossad isn't the best dude to sell to Iraq. But you know who can sell shit to anybody? Yeah. Bobby Maxwell, Baby. Und das ist, wo er in das kommt, richtig? Gordon Thomas, der Autor dieses Israel-Super-Spy-Buches, er ist der Grund, warum Maxwell eine halbe Billion in Lizenzen macht. Ich weiรŸ nicht, wie viel Maxwell wirklich macht.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

But he doesn't start like he is. He's kind of a middleman in the process. And Thomas portrays him as like at the core of the process. But this is like fucked up. And he does sell. He sells, I think, to the Soviet Union. He sells to a shitload of governments that allows the US to spy on them. And he profits personally from this. So this is like a lot of skullduggery it's involved in.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

But he doesn't start like he is. He's kind of a middleman in the process. And Thomas portrays him as like at the core of the process. But this is like fucked up. And he does sell. He sells, I think, to the Soviet Union. He sells to a shitload of governments that allows the US to spy on them. And he profits personally from this. So this is like a lot of skullduggery it's involved in.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

But he doesn't start like he is. He's kind of a middleman in the process. And Thomas portrays him as like at the core of the process. But this is like fucked up. And he does sell. He sells, I think, to the Soviet Union. He sells to a shitload of governments that allows the US to spy on them. And he profits personally from this. So this is like a lot of skullduggery it's involved in.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

It's just a lot more centered on Ed Meese and the Reagan administration than some of these other claims. Make. And obviously Israel profits from this too, because they are using Maxwell to sell it to countries that they want Intel on, right? So that is happening, that is a part of this story. It's just not the start of it.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

It's just a lot more centered on Ed Meese and the Reagan administration than some of these other claims. Make. And obviously Israel profits from this too, because they are using Maxwell to sell it to countries that they want Intel on, right? So that is happening, that is a part of this story. It's just not the start of it.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

It's just a lot more centered on Ed Meese and the Reagan administration than some of these other claims. Make. And obviously Israel profits from this too, because they are using Maxwell to sell it to countries that they want Intel on, right? So that is happening, that is a part of this story. It's just not the start of it.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

Now, there are numerous allegations of Maxwell's fingers in arms dealers that the Israeli government found useful too, and some of these are true, but it's not, it's often portrayed as he is an arms dealer. He's not. He is a guy who knows logistics, and so When a friend is like, hey, we need the shipment to get through this port, he's like, I know guys there. I'll make sure it moves, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

Now, there are numerous allegations of Maxwell's fingers in arms dealers that the Israeli government found useful too, and some of these are true, but it's not, it's often portrayed as he is an arms dealer. He's not. He is a guy who knows logistics, and so When a friend is like, hey, we need the shipment to get through this port, he's like, I know guys there. I'll make sure it moves, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

Now, there are numerous allegations of Maxwell's fingers in arms dealers that the Israeli government found useful too, and some of these are true, but it's not, it's often portrayed as he is an arms dealer. He's not. He is a guy who knows logistics, and so When a friend is like, hey, we need the shipment to get through this port, he's like, I know guys there. I'll make sure it moves, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

He's a, you know, that's the kind of thing he's useful for. And so he is connected to the Mossad because he's a powerful, rich businessman who desperately wants to prove his loyalty to the country, like to Israel, and has connections everywhere. And that's kind of his use.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

He's a, you know, that's the kind of thing he's useful for. And so he is connected to the Mossad because he's a powerful, rich businessman who desperately wants to prove his loyalty to the country, like to Israel, and has connections everywhere. And that's kind of his use.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

He's a, you know, that's the kind of thing he's useful for. And so he is connected to the Mossad because he's a powerful, rich businessman who desperately wants to prove his loyalty to the country, like to Israel, and has connections everywhere. And that's kind of his use.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

And there's a much more accurate look at his spying and his involvement in intelligence agencies in the book Foreign Body, The Secret Life of Robert Maxwell by Russell Davies. And Davies outlines the dimensions of these shady dealings in a way that I think is a lot more accurate. Because he argues, it's hard to imagine Maxwell himself doing an arms deal directly, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

And there's a much more accurate look at his spying and his involvement in intelligence agencies in the book Foreign Body, The Secret Life of Robert Maxwell by Russell Davies. And Davies outlines the dimensions of these shady dealings in a way that I think is a lot more accurate. Because he argues, it's hard to imagine Maxwell himself doing an arms deal directly, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

And there's a much more accurate look at his spying and his involvement in intelligence agencies in the book Foreign Body, The Secret Life of Robert Maxwell by Russell Davies. And Davies outlines the dimensions of these shady dealings in a way that I think is a lot more accurate. Because he argues, it's hard to imagine Maxwell himself doing an arms deal directly, right?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: Robert Maxwell: How Ghislaine Maxwell's Dad Ruined Science

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