Maitlis
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It's actually pushed Trump further away from the people that he would like to see getting into power, you know, across the ocean here in Europe.
Yeah, I mean, the only thing I'd say, I guess, is, you know, a word of caution.
This all feels like the sort of fever dream exhaustion that comes after an election night where no one has, frankly, been to bed.
And it is possible that...
You know, even last night we were listening to some sort of Polish voices, Polish politicians, and they were painting Magyar as this sort of leftist, this kind of wokest, you know, the guy that we've already talked about, who is not, who's very firmly not on the left.
But they've been saying...
You look what's going to happen, Hungary.
You're going to go to hell in a handbasket.
The same has happened in Poland.
And there are people who already sort of see, you know, imagine the undoing of Hungary, that if it gives up its stance on immigration, if it gives up its stance on authoritarianism, if it gives up some of its control that Hungary saw under Orban, then you wait, you know, you don't realize how good you had it.
I mean, it's exactly what the communists used to say, ironically.
you know, before the fall of the Soviet Union.
You won't realise how good you had it until it's over.
And I think that there are still going to be populist successes.
You know, this is not the end of populism in Europe.
There are still going to be victories.
There are still going to be people who capitalise on the first thing that goes wrong in this regime or the first thing
that they can point to in anywhere where the populists have sort of, you know, fallen from grace, as it were.
And I guess, you know, those celebrating victory today will have to be really mindful that it is, you know, a bloody long road ahead of them.
The economy is not going to suddenly improve overnight.