Mallory Rubin

There's the Hugo one.

And then there's the Scanlan one that he is using to dive.

Yeah.

When we get to see, and when, crucially, Margaret and Daniel get to see, they're watching a movie of their own life, and the role of storytelling and filmmaking is very present there, and just in general, and that kind of fairytale-esque presentation and rendering of that sequence.

The rings that are made of those devices that go down over each of them to kind of imbue them with these abilities, right?

Their respective dyad and the force abilities.

He will be able to speak the language of the universe, mathematics.

Mathematics.

I love that.

It's very contact.

It's really, yeah, for sure.

There's some contact was on my mind actually with the religion stuff as well in terms of like how would actually like religious figures.

I'm always thinking that.

The effect on the eyeball.

the deer who then morphs into the alien over the face the moment in the hospital where Emily Blunt's face is like visible against the bald head of the guy who's pretending to be an FBI agent exactly incredible pretending to be an FBI agent some of those visuals I thought were like really gripping they were all on the trailers and so actually I was like I think more excited for what the visual palette of the film would be based on the teases and glimpses we got but

That was the extent of it, right?

You don't see that really cool eye effect of that ring of devices and their pupils outside of the moments that we had basically already seen and seen in the posters, et cetera.

On the CGI animal front, and I want to talk just for another minute here about the role that movies and stories play in the film, and especially thinking about that

through the lens of where Spielberg is in his career and thinking about the role of the stories that he has told and wanted to tell and what that unlocks for us, right?

So I think the most generous like read on the CGI that I can attempt to provide is like that the animals are supposed to look strange and uncanny because they're trying to say like this is a child's experience of basically their version of a fairy tale.