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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Greetings, and welcome to House of R, a Ringerverse podcast on the Ringer Podcast Network. I'm Mallory Rubin. She is...
Joanna Robinson. You either just made a bunch of ASMR people's day or made a bunch of people turn the pot off. Before we even start, do you want to start by telling people what you did during when we watched this movie together?
Yeah, I, you know, we had known that the clicking, the clicking was coming from the trailers. And so when Emily Blunt's character, Margaret, we'll be talking about Disclosure Day today. More on that in a second. When she assumed the position. In front of the weather report. The pink dress is on. The weather report. You know what's happening. I knew.
I felt in my bones the clicking is about to begin. And I turned to you because we were next to each other in the screening. And I leaned close. So close to my ear. And right up. As if you were about to whisper a sweet nothing. Lips flush against your ear. I clicked. And I clicked for like 15 seconds before you elbowed me so forcefully in the chest. I elbowed you so hard.
And that was just like an unintentional reaction.
It was like with the force of a dodge shooting through a farmhouse. I felt so bad, but I was like, I could not control my limbs in what they did in that moment.
It was just a very authentic response.
In the chest, I thought it was the shoulder. I'm so sorry. That's even worse.
It was like kind of a lower clavicle. Yeah, I don't have, we can't use like muscle groups. We just have to use like, I don't really have any muscles. Skeletal. Yeah, exactly. But you know, one more memorable experience for us at the cinema. So that's great. So we're gonna talk about all of that. We're gonna talk about all of that.
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Chapter 2: What memorable experiences did the hosts have during the screening?
I've previewed that I've added to my vampire costume for some reason. Listen, this is just something we're doing. Dark Knight Rises.
That's right.
We have a special pal and a guest who was at our Disclosure Day screening. Yes. Who is coming on the pod. I don't want to say who it is just in case they fall into a hole and it doesn't happen. So hopefully they won't. Is it Harrison Ford? It's not Harrison Ford. He was not at our Disclosure Day screening. And then House of the Dragon.
Boy, next week. Sheesh.
I watched the first episode.
I haven't watched yet. I can't wait. I'm so excited.
There's an embargo up. I literally can't say anything about it, but I have seen it.
And then it's hot D season. I mean, Talk to Thrones, Deep Dives, all of it. Busy summer ahead. We got Supergirl.
The set deck is already here. There are drippy candles in the corner waiting to be wheeled out. So I'm excited.
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Chapter 3: What are the hosts' initial thoughts on 'Disclosure Day'?
Aliens. Yes. There's a very long period of what's this movie going to be about, and then they just put all the aliens in the trailer over the last few weeks, and that ceased being a mystery. Not that it was ever much of one.
I think that we should also issue a spoiler warning more broadly for just the Spielberg canon, because part of talking about this movie is considering some of the prior films. I don't really think that's going to be an issue for people. I think people have seen, like, E.T. and Close Encounters. But Bridge of Spies might get spoiled for you. The post might get spoiled for you.
Well, you can hear the Baltimore. The Post. The Post. Ooh, The Post. We're going down to the ocean, Han, to talk about journalism. All right, that's it. Those are the spoiler warnings. Those are the programming reminders. That's the tease about a special announcement still to come. HobbitsandDragons.gmail.com.
I should say the list. That emails have been robust in the inbox. We have no disclosure day emails, so I am curious if the bad babies like this movie. We have not heard from any of them, so...
We're recording on a Friday morning, but presumably some people saw it on Thursday night. Not as many, maybe.
They didn't run home to email us. Weird. But you have the whole weekend to do so. I care to know. Should we get to the opening snapshot? Let's do it.
Okay, Disclosure Day, directed by an exciting up-and-coming filmmaker, as Sean likes to joke. It always makes me laugh when he says that. Great Sean bit. Steven Spielberg. Oh. A real aviator of a lot. Aviator of a lot. So it's time to bring that back. We've got Rings of Power coming in a few months. We're back in aviator of a lot season. Written by David Kapp. This is the fifth.
He's collateral here. He's collateral here. Oh, I missed that. Is Galadriel here in Hot Sauron who fucks? Just what a time. What a time to be a Rings fan. And we're going to be back in that world soon. It's... Excited. It's Lord of the Rings Fall. It sure is. I have a lot of plans. It sure is. This movie was also scored by someone else you might have heard of. John Williams. How old is he?
He is in his 80s.
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Chapter 4: How does 'Disclosure Day' fit into Spielberg's filmography?
Yeah.
it just has always seemed to me completely improbable and even impossible. Uh, and with respect to anybody who feels the other way about it, um, completely like egomaniacal to think that we are the only beings in the universe. And, uh, it's exciting. And of course, like as a lover of sci-fi books, shows, movies, all of it, um,
also daunting and scary and I one of the things I love about the genre of space exploration we talked about a lot this a lot with like space movie month um and this is obviously like a a slice of that not every space movie is an alien movie um to think about what an encounter would be like.
Part of why you've touched on this a little bit already with the Project Hail Mary point, but part of what I really love about E.T., part of what I love about Project Hail Mary, part of what, even though the end of this movie in particular doesn't really work for me, I still admire as an impulse, I think, and maybe a commitment to exploring a possibility, is the idea that we could...
have to reckon with how small and infinitesimal we are and that that might unlock a greater connection and sense of purpose and shared belonging and possibility and not just have to spell our immediate doom and destruction. You know, when we talked to, um, Andy Weir. On this podcast.
On this very podcast, sitting right there about Project Hail Mary and just his work overall and his thoughts about these kinds of stories overall. He invoked Three-Body Problem and Dark Forest. I was thinking back to our coverage of season one of that show and us actually not... I had not read Beyond yet and not really wanting to get into what Dark Forest is, but I think it's like...
okay to say this, this idea that Andy Weir said on the Project Hail Mary interview of, like, just the kind of core thesis behind the three-body trilogy that The universe is akin to a dark forest and every other life form and race and population is there but hiding from discovery because if someone else is out there, they have to kill you before you can kill them.
I find that actually fascinating and I'm really excited to see the next season of that show and to keep reading those stories. I think that is like... Very upsetting to confront, but strikes me as like a credible thesis, right? I think the idea that Grace and Rocky could come across each other out in a quest to save their respective civilizations from destruction.
certain peril and decide that they would be able to do that more wholly and more successfully together and also that they would care about saving each other more than anyone else at the end is like so lovely and heartening and I like that the genre allows us to explore all of those things.
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Chapter 5: What themes do Daniel and Jane explore in their relationship?
I think he's pretty... He and Jane have to interact in a way that... Two people who are in a relationship and care about each other enough. Right. To go do this thing together. Neither of them bails on the other. He doesn't say, oh, well, you have like Jane. That's not enough for me to basically show up with this backpack and try to hold on to the device.
Or like once he knows she's been taken over. Right. He's like, it wasn't you. He doesn't abandon. He doesn't like part ways with her.
I'm going to let you stay in the next bed.
I'm going to let you. I'm going to tie your hands up.
Yes, but I will hold the paper in the hand with the hotel name on it even though I put everything else away.
And I will not blindfold you. We tied the hands and we didn't close the eyes.
Yeah. And she is just facing him. It's a good note. Also, like, lean into the kink at that point, you know? Why not? Invite Colin Firth into your relationship. Oh, my God. I mean, that would be great. They end up kind of—and, you know, they're learning things about each other. That's the cover. They both have their secrets. She was going to become a nun and didn't tell them.
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Chapter 6: How does the movie address the concept of belief and faith?
He is going to be the whistleblower for the biggest reveal on the history of humanity. Not exactly one-to-one, but we all have our own versions of those things. Yeah.
there's some charm in a sequence like that when he's like you were gonna be a nun and she's like we've had sex what do you think again i think she's just wonderful but the way that you know when i got out of prison for my cyber crimes is just like kind of a tough bit of exposition to have to unload in a scene i think relation like okay so looking at last crusade or like or jurassic park if you prefer like two of the best movies ever made um
We anchor this journey inside of relationship journeys, right? And so for like Sam Neill and the kids, it's like, do I, I hate kids. No, actually, do I have a place in this world where I am interested? It is a father-child thing in a certain way. Last Crusade. entirely a father. You have this great story that is just hinged entirely. And he's on this mission to find his dad.
He only goes through the trials because they shot Sean Connery and he's got to like pour some magical hydrogen peroxide on the wound. Like all of that is so personal. Yes. Yeah. Which is just delicious. And this, you know, situationally, like,
Like, I could tell that he cared about Jane right away because the plot was, like, he's doing everything he can to, like, get her out of this situation despite the high stakes of this, you know, MacGuffin that he's carrying. Like, that's all there.
But, like, the movie then veers away from his relationship to her to, like, his connection to Emily Blunt's character and not, like, you can't sort of move through things. But in, like, a road movie, if you're thinking about, like, the Bourne identity or something like that, like, a road movie should be about, like... What are these two people and what are they learning about each other?
Like I would really have liked if it was – maybe it's Emily Blunt and Josh O'Connor from the beginning and they like don't understand why they have this connection and are figuring it out and why are we a dyad in the forest and all this sort of stuff like that. Or, you know, it's about –
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Chapter 7: What role does empathy play in the characters' experiences?
the relationship between Jane and Kellner. But that's sort of just dropped in a way that is confusing to me. So I don't know. Josh O'Connor, this is just not what I would... I get why you cast him because he has... Oh, for sure. He's so talented in general, but he also has that childlike face that sort of like... He can do that childlike one.
And we'll talk about the Spielberg face a bit more later.
But like...
I get why you cast him, but I just don't think they used him to the best of his abilities and he could do so much. Emily Blunt, however.
Just an unbelievable performance. Sensational. Will she get nominated for an Oscar? She should. She should. I hope she does. Gold Glove for sure.
Golden Globe for sure. It sort of depends on how— I can see Disclosure Day being a big Golden Globes movie for sure. Hollywood Foreign Press is so excited about Disclosure Day. But, you know, this is—I would love for her to get an Oscar. I think she should because, like, it's an emotional performance. It's a funny performance.
And I think comedy should be more readily recognized at the Oscars. I think she deserves it.
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Chapter 8: How does the film critique societal responses to truth and disclosure?
In general, I think that the humor of the movie was one of the really successful parts, and she's the engine of so much of that. I thought that all of the Margaret Jackson, Emily Blunt, Wyatt Russell scenes were amazing. Just amazing. And the hospital. The hospital was hysterical. It's just her reaction to him revealing this trauma and the dreams and the singing. It's like, you do, you do.
Yes, every night. They're both just so great in that scene. But when they cut through the bathroom into the other patient's room... Because she has, at this point, clicked. She's spoken fluent Russian. She's spoken Korean. She's had the interaction with the cop who pulled her over with people on the local news set. You know, you got to get out.
So she has a different level of awareness of what is happening to her because when she's speaking these other languages, she doesn't know. But when she tells the cop these innermost truths about how he feels about his wife, his new baby, et cetera, she doesn't. She's like, what the fuck just happened? Yeah.
So when she looks at Jackson and is like, she doesn't have to say out loud what he's thinking. The comedy is in not saying it and saying to him,
you how dare you think that because it's like about their relationship and then later there is a little bit more of an overt at the convenience store gas station when she'll end up splitting like you wouldn't move you wouldn't go with me if I moved like you want me to go you want to say you have your thing we've grown apart people grow apart the I think in some ways not only the single like funniest maybe moment but the the
To me, the encapsulation of why the humor was so important as like a pressure valve release in the film was actually in a stretch of the movie that I thought wasn't as successful, but toward the end, when they get back to the station, they're about to, on via broadcast news, as we have said many times and will continue to say throughout the
the podcast, because it is just so perplexing, reveal this instead of just putting it on the internet. The fact that Daniel, at the beginning of the movie, on the phone with Hugo, was like, I'm going to just put it on the internet right now. And Hugo's like, don't you dare.
And it felt so keenly like they had that in there just to basically acknowledge that the internet existed, which is pretty rough. Anyway, getting everybody ready, convincing the station head, like, okay, where's the control room? Where's the this one? And everything is so—we know that Scanlan knows where she's going. They're going to be there soon. The generator. Okay, the tension is so keen.
And then it's like, do you want makeup? Uh, yeah. Like, that's just gold. It's so good.
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