Manaia Stewart

This is what New Zealand rugby is terrified of and why they sack them so quickly is because you can't afford to have the black jersey.

That's the only leverage that we've got in world rugby at the moment is if you want to play for the All Blacks, you have to, you know, you have to play here in New Zealand and all this kind of stuff.

Well, now if you're like,

But I don't want to play for the All Blacks.

And that's what they're terrified of.

No, no, no.

It was last year.

Yeah, because there were stories about it back then as well.

Yeah, but it's like, you know, they do that every year.

And so I was like, they do this, you know, post-year wrap-up exit interview thing every year.

Yeah.

Why are they writing stories about it?

Well, what I think was happening was the journos knew that the feedback in that was overwhelmingly –

we're not fans of Razor.

And I don't think they could say it, but I think that's why the stories were circulating then.

Manga Tarata.

You didn't want to take that one on, Joe?

Fuck is that?

We're coming up to it then, Joe.

It just points at the... We're coming up to the turn-off, though.