Manda Scott

But it was the right thing to do.

So now Johnson made a lot of other mistakes in terms of the war in Vietnam.

But on civil rights, he's a hero.

because he risked his whole party's future for something he believed in.

And we're going to need that.

So we should hope that a great person emerges.

But here's the thing that's interesting.

This is go back to our beginning of our conversation.

Why did Donald Trump emerge?

Suzette said it.

Because so many people felt disenfranchised.

So many people felt like they were left out.

So they voted for a guy who had the wrong answers to the right problem.

So now, if people realize this isn't working, it's only working for a very few, and we can't even solve big problems together, and we hate each other, this isn't working, we need something new.

That's the very milieu that requires a new level of thinking.

Now, let me be political here.

That's why I think Gavin Newsom is exactly the wrong guy to run for president next time, because we don't need the same energy.

We don't need another person going to say, let's fight the other side.

We need someone who is fresh and new who says, I want a different kind of democracy, and I want you to come with me on that journey.

And I think that kind of person might emerge, but they're going to have to be an outsider to the party like Trump was, but hopefully an outsider...