Manda Scott

Things have to be broken sometimes before something new emerges.

And I think the old system is, as Brian McLaren, who we had on recently, wrote Life After Doom, said the old system is, in fact, going to die.

It is dying right now.

And that's the good news, he said, because when an old system dies, something else will have to be born.

Now, it's clinging on by its fingers to keep going, but it is dying.

And that's the good news.

The only question is, will we be intentional about what is reborn from it versus just let it happen by accident?

And that's why these kind of conversations and experiments are so important, because we don't want the next rebirth from this death to just be another accidental, no pun intended to your podcast, accidental God.

We want it to be an intentional one that we create together.

Fantastic.