Manda Scott

And that is going to happen locally.

But I think Suzette's really right.

We have the capacity now because of tech to enable conversations that happen even around the globe, let alone around a country.

I think we need to invest in that kind of work, even though it seems silly given the immediacy of these other things.

But if you haven't- It just did, yeah.

So much in there.

And I begin with your core question, which is, I don't really know.

So I think we have to experiment.

I think we'd be great if we had, as Suzette said, there are lots of experiments going, but we need more experiments, experiments of bringing people together to talk about the present and the future in respectful and reasonable ways.

And as you said, social media is really the elephant in the room, because as you said, the tribes have been created

as much as they have emerged, right?

So every piece of research that's ever been done has shown that we're not as divided as we think we are, right?

And so this is a manufactured landscape.

And that's a problem, right?

Because there's a lot of interest in manufacturing that and a lot of money in keeping us in tribal, in tribes.

So first we have to do a lot of experimenting.

Then we have to scale and tell the story of those experiments, right?

And then I think we might have the capacity to do some larger experiment.

So in that way, I do agree with Suzette that a lot of this can happen best locally.

I remember I was in Louisville, Kentucky, which Louisville is a purple city in a red state.