Manda Scott

You've got to go into a reflective process that creates a well deep enough that it can happen.

So I think while we fight these mini wars around elections and around freedom of the press in many countries and disinformation, which we must,

I think the key is we've got to create these dialogues.

I'll say one more thing.

David Suzuki, the well-known Canadian environmentalist, is really known around the world.

And a number of years ago, David and I had talked about having these potlatches across Canada.

I live in both countries, Canada and the US.

And where we would just have these, it's a native term, where the tribes would gather.

And just to have conversations about the future.

We decided in the end it was too hard a task.

But in retrospect, I wish we had done it.

Because I think that's what we need right now is potlatches.

And if we bring diverse people together, even who disagree on so many things, I think they will agree on many things.

And that's I think it has to begin with conversation.

And that's hard work.

We'd rather just take to the streets and fight the next bill.

But that won't win the war.

That might win a battle or two, but that can't win the war.

I don't think so anyway.

not without imagination and true conversation.