Mandy
Appearances
48 Hours
Up In Flames
Thank you for saying that, Ellen. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows? I only told Mandy.
48 Hours
Up In Flames
Can we just say it's great? Thank you for saying that, Ellen. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows. I only told Mandy.
48 Hours
Up In Flames
Thank you for saying that, Elway. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows. I only told Mandy.
48 Hours
With God as a Witness
Can we just say it's great? Thank you for saying that, Elmer. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows. I only told Mandy.
48 Hours
With God as a Witness
Hmm, OK. Can we just say it's great? Thank you for saying that out loud. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows. I only told Mandy.
48 Hours
With God as a Witness
Thank you for saying that out loud. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows. I only told Mandy.
48 Hours
Post Mortem | The Plot to Eliminate Alyssa Burkett
Thank you for saying that out loud. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows? I only told Mandy.
48 Hours
Post Mortem | The Plot to Eliminate Alyssa Burkett
Hmm, OK. Can we just say it's great? Thank you for saying that out loud. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows. I only told Mandy. Well, I only told Mom and Dad. That's everybody.
48 Hours
Post Mortem | The Plot to Eliminate Alyssa Burkett
Can we just say it's great? Thank you for saying that out loud. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows. I only told Mandy.
48 Hours
In The Line of Fire
So quick summary. Laugh at Georgie and Mandy's first marriage with all episodes now streaming on Paramount Plus and returning new CBS Fall.
48 Hours
In The Line of Fire
So, quick summary. Laugh at Georgie and Mandy's first marriage with all episodes now streaming on Paramount Plus and returning new CBS Fall.
48 Hours
In The Line of Fire
That's everybody. So, quick summary. Laugh at Georgie and Mandy's first marriage with all episodes now streaming on Paramount Plus and returning new CBS Fall.
48 Hours
Beauty Queen Betrayal
Thank you for saying that, Elway. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows? I only told Mandy. I only told Mom and Dad. That's everybody.
48 Hours
Beauty Queen Betrayal
Can we just say it's great? Thank you for saying that out loud. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows. I only told Mandy. Well, I only told Mom and Dad. That's everybody.
48 Hours
Beauty Queen Betrayal
Thank you for saying that out loud. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows? I only told Mandy. I only told Mom and Dad. That's everybody.
48 Hours
A Cop Behind Bars
Can we just say it's great? Thank you for saying that out loud. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows? I only told Mandy.
48 Hours
A Cop Behind Bars
Hmm, OK. Can we just say it's great? Thank you for saying that out loud. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows. I only told Mandy.
48 Hours
A Cop Behind Bars
Can we just say it's great? Thank you for saying that out loud. With lots and lots of laughs. So everybody knows? I only told Mandy.
48 Hours
The Footprint
Yes, that's true. He got along well with a lot of people, very low-key gentleman, easily can make friends with people.
48 Hours
The Footprint
He's a very good salesperson. He understands the need to fill the need. He understands how to communicate and people have to be comfortable with you to close on business.
48 Hours
The Footprint
You didn't know anything. No. What was your reaction? It was hard to understand. That's the hard pill to swallow, meaning How does a person with a good family and a loving wife have the need for solicitation? What's going on there?
48 Hours
The Footprint
You know, you can't run from that evidence. He had to have been there. Don't get there by accident. You don't believe he was there the day that Jeannie Childs was murdered? I don't.
48 Hours
The Footprint
The victim didn't deserve what they got. It's terrible sitting here and Jerry's paying for that. But it's not Jerry.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
I was born in Austin. You lucky duck. My grandparents, it was kind of a bummer when they moved. I'm sorry, when they died.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
The family sold the house. I was like, no, don't sell the house.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
I feel like I gave Randy a nice out from Betty.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
I feel bad. Poor Randy. I think he just had a lot of fun. Yeah. He did have a stressful job. He worked as a correctional officer. Oh, wow.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
It is. We miss him. He was a good dude.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
This is great. Thanks so much for listening to this guy prattle on.
Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard
Armchair Anonymous: Crazy Neighbors
Oh, my gosh. I couldn't believe that story is out in the open.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
Oh my gosh, not Phil.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
Phil, it's not about that. It was a big charger. And I feel like I like you.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
You know what? Sign me up. I can get an AARP.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
As a wing woman, not any romance, no. Okay.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
Um... I guess I don't have a lot of time, but okay.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
Oh, no, not Phil. Oh, yes, you mean, oh, yes, Phil.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
I mean, I'm into dating older guys, but Bill's picture, it was a lot younger than what he made it out to be.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
Yeah. It was off. It was not close.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
Yeah. Well, I think his age was correct. It's just it was a whole photo thing.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
Well, here's the weird thing. I was showing him how to order. We were in the middle of the restaurant ordering and I was showing him how to do the TikTok. And he basically ordered a glass of milk.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
And Paul dies from the battery being too low, and he pulls out a full fanny pack and large pack from the fanny pack.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
It was a super pack, not just a tiny one. It was a super pack in the fanny pack.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
And then on top of all that, the waiter, he made a comment, like a weird comment.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
If I was waiting on that table, I would think the same thing.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
He's not a grandfather, is he?
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
Well, he did start talking about my credit score and my IRA.
Brooke and Jeffrey: Second Date Update
Second Date Update: Age Is Just A Bummer
Probably really good for my future, but, you know, that's not romantic. Okay. You're right. You're right.
I've Had It
Middle-Aged Big Girl
OK, ladies, I just got done listening to your jailbirds lovebirds episode. And first off, I just want to say, number one, I've had it with Josh Welsh and him ruining the best bite and the fabulous Gucci shorts that I'm sure Jennifer was wearing. Number two. Come on, pumps. Give him a call. Call him. This would be so amazing for this saga.
I've Had It
Middle-Aged Big Girl
The guy sounds like he's a fucking doll and he sounds like he'd be somebody who would really pay attention to what's going on. He's a liberal. Oh my gosh. That's half the battle these days, right? Give him a call. See what happens. We want to hear it. We want to see it. We love you. And Kylie, I am
I've Had It
Middle-Aged Big Girl
queen you are amazing for putting up with these two bitches as long as you have but on a serious note i love you and thank for being thank you for being my bestest friends even though we've never met oh i love her okay here's what i want to get here's what i want to get to with you okay
Table Read
The Jew Who Saved Christmas - Act 3
such a friendly atmosphere. The staff there at Shirk Orthodontics is just incredible. The entire process is honestly smooth and stress-free. The team is always professional. I just love their personalized approach. They have a very tailored plan, treatment plan. Hi, I'm Mandy and my boys, Kale and Finn and myself and my husband couldn't be happier with Shirk Orthodontics.
Table Read
The Jew Who Saved Christmas - Act 3
Mom, Santa came while we were sleeping. Look at all the toys.
Table Read
The Jew Who Saved Christmas - Act 3
Pepsi Zero Sugar? You've really outdone yourself this time. Pizza deserves Pepsi.
That Was Us
Kate and Toby Get Married | "The Wedding" (S2E18)
If someone had told Charles and Melanie that after their Tinder match, they would start a channel with crazy tasks together. So really crazy. Spend five days on a lonely island, crawl down a zip line on a belt, crack one million views, climb a wall with a lot of buttons and jump off a parachute in Egypt? They would never have believed that. But that's the thing with Tinder.
That Was Us
Kate and Toby Get Married | "The Wedding" (S2E18)
It takes you to places you would never have expected. Wherever it takes you. It starts with a swipe. Tinder.
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Just sort of saying like, I don't know what's going on with him. This is a low point, but thank you for being here for me. Cause I don't know what I was going to do. Like he's, he's sort of just lost. Yeah. Right. And so then he sees his dad get on his knees and he starts praying the prayer. God, thank you for giving me prayer. Right. And then you see Kev sort of break a little bit, right?
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Yeah, he's crying watching his dad on the stage. He's crying watching his dad going through this thing. And it sort of reminded me to a certain extent of what I thought one of the great draws of the show was. Because the great draw of the show, one of them for me from the beginning, is that you get a chance to see parents and children living life at the same age in two different timelines.
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
And what it sort of echoed to me is that like, we put our parents on these pedestals when we are young and have these expectations of them to be superhuman, super mom, super dad, et cetera. And then you get a chance to be the same age that they are and you realize, oh, they were just people. trying the best that they knew how to figure this shit out day in and day out.
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
And it's almost like in that moment, Jack went from there to there, but not in a way, before it was like a demeaning sort of thing. And then it was just like, oh, my dad's just trying to figure this shit out. From resentment to understanding. Yes. So that was like a beautiful sort of thing because as we move,
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Through the episode, we know that Jack is going to go out of town with Randall because he's got a college trip that he needs to go. So he may not be able to make it to his football game. And so the football and Kev's like, it doesn't matter. Like, I got plenty of fans in the stands. Don't even worry about me. And it's like, oh, come on, dude.
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Like, every time you get a chance to, like, recover, it just doesn't go. So he's at the football game. And this is when we find out about the initial injury to Kev's knee, when it just sort of blows up. And his future, as he saw it, blows up with it, right? There's a necklace that, well, Jack comes, they return from the trip.
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
On today's episode of That Was Us, we'll be discussing season two, episode eight, number one. An alumni honor ceremony brings Kevin back to his high school where painful memories of that time in his life further his downward spiral. And Jack and Rebecca are hopeful about the future of their kids. Gang, how are we doing today?
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
And so he has a necklace that was given to him, I think in Vietnam.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
So that's our little precursor to what the episode is. The episode begins with the home movies back in the past of Jack and Rebecca watching the big three. They're all around a year or something, maybe a little less, a little older. And we're trying to see who's going to walk. Like, come on, Vic 3, who's going to go first? And number one starts walking and he's moving forward.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Of purpose. And he gives it to Kev and Kev has apologized. He says, I know I was awful to you. And he says, you're going to be all right. And they hold each other. They cry together and it's a beautiful moment. Okay.
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
I love it so much. Did you, you know what I didn't realize also, shout out to Sid, he won his first Emmy. Oh yeah. At the Emmys this year. Oh yeah. Like right after our podcast, I think the Emmys happened. Oh yeah. Yeah. And he wound up winning. So just shout out to Sid. Yeah.
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
He's talented. He's solid. Okay. So that's the past.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Now I get goosebumps. I really do get goosebumps. And I want to say it is so easy to celebrate everybody on this show because I think we collectively celebrate each other.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Right? There's no sense of like if somebody got something, somebody else didn't get something. It's like we all win in this thing together. So when we talk about the enthusiasm that we have for Justin and how he ripped this mother effing episode, real, right? He winds up going back to the high school.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
The young lady had called him, or first of all, we see him go to the airport and people are taking pictures, et cetera. And he's a shell of himself. You know what I mean? Like barely keeping it together. But all people see is the Manny. somebody famous and they're shooting a shot and they're taking their moment and taking the pictures.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
And he doesn't really have the strength to say no or to like give a smile. He just sort of stands there. Exists. And then just kind of keeps moving through the whole thing, right? Before he gets back to the high school, he asks his driver to take a quick detour.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
He's like, yeah, I know where we gotta go. Just make this turn real quick. And he winds up pulling out in front of the old house. And directorially, like this is some beautiful stuff that happens because we see the house as is right now that he's seeing. Then we see a burned down shell of a house. for just the briefest of seconds.
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
And then we see the family, the old Pearson family playing a game of football against each other in the front yard.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
And it's just like, and Kevin's just standing there watching that whole thing. And then it flashes back to, oh, we're in front of somebody else's house. And the dude's like, can I help you?
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Just creepy dude with beard standing in front of my crib. I don't watch the Manny, so you don't get that social capital.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
He winds up going to the school. The young lady, Kelly, who talked to him on the phone, was so excited for him to be there, winds up telling him that there's a green room for you to hang out in. We didn't expect you to be here this early. This is so exciting. I've never talked to a celebrity, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. He's like, you know what? I'm just going to take a walk.
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Winds up walking through the hallways of the school.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
He's like, oh, it's number one. He's going forth, right? And so we know Kevin was the first person to sort of take those steps.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
There's a few, because there's another one coming up, right? Yes, agreed. So he gets to the thing where he's being, no, before he gets honored, there's like a little reception before, because there's a few other people who are being honored as well. And there's a girl, a woman. Charlotte.
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Who's a plastic surgeon who works, you know, burn victims, et cetera. We wound up finding this out. Who had a...
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Big crush on Kevin when they were in high school. And you probably don't even remember me. Like you're always with Sophie, but dah, dah, dah, dah, dah. They're having drinks and Kev's pouring extra wine. Like any opportunity he has to drink, to take a pill or whatnot, he's taking it, right? And he's not even really hiding at this point. He's just doing it. Indulging, sure. Indulging.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
So she's very sweet and very sort of flirtatious with him or whatnot. And then it comes time to the actual honoring the ceremony itself. To introduce Kev and they bring back his old high school coach.
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
This was another one of those eternal sunshine of the spotless mind moments where you circle the camera and it's the old coach talking and you circle around Kev and you go back and it's Jack saying the exact same thing and then circles back again, back to the coach. You stay with Kev just watching it and realizing, There's a sense of loss. Like that dude is probably like the male figure.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
That's closest to like what his dad would have been or whatnot. And so Kev goes and hugs him and is taking everything in. And it's like, you know, that's what I was reading before. It's like, you guys were wrong about me. Because the coach winds up saying, you're one of the strongest kids that I know to bounce back from what you went through and to make something out of your life.
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
So it'll be Kevin, then Kate, then Randall. And we'll revisit this motif to sort of set up each one as we go through.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
You don't make them like you anymore, Ken. I know your dad would have been proud to see who you are, right? He says that in the speech. And Kev's like, you guys are wrong about me. I'm not strong. And somebody yells out, we love you, Kevin. It's like, no, don't, don't, don't do that. Don't love me. It's completely undeserved or whatnot. And it just elicits uproarious applause, right?
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
And this is where I had to like take a moment because this is, and I won't say I've had this experience, but something analogous to like people not seeing you and you trying to tell them who you are, right?
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Yes. Thank you for that. Thank you. Thank you for that. I think that is an incredible insight. Distillation and insight into... Because we all know Kevin is a good person. We absolutely do. For sure.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
I think the part of the flip that I also sort of relate to is the idea of people don't always look for the fullness of your humanity. They may see the highest version of yourself, even though you're trying to say like, that's not who I am right now. Sure. Like, could you see me for who I am right now? Because actually the person that I am right now needs help.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
But I feel like there's an idealized version of like, because there's some level of celebrity that folks are just like, oh, everything you do is dope. And he's trying to say like, everything I do is not dope. although what you're saying is also true.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
So Sully will talk quite openly about times before we got a chance to meet him about drinking and how he stopped drinking. And every once in a while I'll have a cocktail and he's like, no, just have a sparkling water or whatnot. I was like, oh yeah, that's right. Sully didn't know. And it's always like mildly shocking because the person that I know
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
who's like in front of us today or whatnot, is so incredibly introspective and thoughtful that you have a tough time imagining the person that you describe.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
I did not expect that to happen in this episode, but I'm very happy that it did.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Yeah. All right, so wait, let's continue because after the speech happens, why not? He winds up taking a walk with the doctor and they're outside. He's hurting. He says something.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
He says, I feel like I could be standing completely naked out here. And all anyone would see is me and that number one jersey. Because he talks about how, you know, my number was one. And he goes, like, did you pick? And I was like, no, they just gave it to me. You know, and they called me number one in my family because I was the first to walk, et cetera, et cetera.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
And she says to him, well, that's not all that I see.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
And he says, please don't do that. See you, Charlotte. And he gets up and he leaves.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
He winds up sort of reliving the day that we were talking about in the past when he's on the football field and- What happened?
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Pearson can do no wrong. He's doing great. He's already ran for two touchdowns, thrown for what have you. And it looks like everything's going to go right and he takes the snap. And he goes back and wait a minute, the rush is coming. And boom, like his knee folds under him, his knees wrecked. Will he get up again just in time to bury his beloved father?
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Well, then he goes on, he cheats on his girlfriend. Then he gets a sitcom that pays him millions. Keep going. And even when he tries to tell people how pathetic he is, they don't listen to him. And what you're talking about is that sort of like the shame cycle that Key is in, in that moment, but he's articulating it in a way I just want to go back to this.
That Was Us
Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
When you are by yourself, especially on set versus on stage, where you have the invisible cast member known as the audience, there's an energy that transfers, even when you're delivering a soliloquy or something. When you're on set by yourself, I guess you have A and B camera operator. You're like, maybe I can give something to them and they'll feel it.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Because every once in a while, you'll get the cameraman to come up to you and be like, hey, that shit was really good. And you'll be like... Thank you. That's all I needed. Thank you so much. Thanks, James. Yeah. We all know that. Because you're by yourself, you have no idea how it's going. This man proceeds to bare his soul by himself, and it is an extraordinary piece of acting. Feat, yeah.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Extraordinary. So he's down on his knees, completely crumbled, whatnot. And young Kelly, who we've seen throughout the episode, who's very good, by the way, whoever played her. Yeah, she's great. She comes up to me and says, I've been looking for you. Do you want to party? Right? And, like, you can feel, as an audience member, I was like.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Please. Because we come back from commercial break.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
And he's in bed with someone. And, like, it's probably one of the creepiest sort of, like.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
misdirects, thankfully, you know what I'm saying? Because it winds up being Charlotte and not Kelly, where you go like, okay.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Not the healthiest choice. But so he's talking, and he's still, he's clammy, he's bearded up, and she's just snuggled up, happy as can be. I can't believe this is happening. Yeah, like fantasy fulfilled. He gets up to go to the bathroom.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
right and uh just immediately starts rummaging through her medicine cabinet looking for pills looking for something to use etc comes out of the bathroom after flushing the toilet to make it sound like he went to the bathroom he's like you know what i actually maybe just be a little hungry you got anything we can whip up in the kitchen what have you and she's like yeah i can make something real quick he winds up rummaging through all of her stuff looking just
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
It's a Rashomon sort of thing. Yeah, absolutely. So the first thing that we see is Kev in the hotel. Because he hasn't, you know, he didn't, obviously- He is clearly- On a binge. On a binge. Yeah, on a bender. It's Kev with a beard, which we've seen for the first time. We've never seen before, and I don't think we ever see it again.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
you don't even know what he's looking for to a certain extent, right? I think he's just looking for pills. And then he finds the script pad and you're like, and he takes off, he rips off a sheet, puts it in his pocket. fucking leaves. Like, no, I gotta go. No, just goes, right?
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
So next time we see him, he's in the drug store and he's got the prescription thing filled out and he's waiting to go up. And there's a little paranoia that's beginning to set in. Cops come in from outside and they're, just doing whatever they're doing in the drugstore. But in his head, he's like, oh God, this is kind of bad, right?
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
So a couple of times throughout the episode, you'll see he'll sort of just like reach up and grab his necklace. And it's sort of a comforting touchstone for him. And as the cops are there, he reaches up to grab, and he's like, oh, I don't have my necklace, right? So he goes back to Charlotte's house. bangs on the door, Charlotte, can you let me in? I left my dad's necklace.
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Like, could you please let me in? She sticks her head out the window. Like, what are you doing here, bro? Like, you just left. Like, you expect me to let you back in?
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Nowhere to Run | "Number One" (S2E8)
Both. Because, and I gotta like take a moment here because there is the vulnerability of like him asking for his necklace. And it's like, it's the only thing I have left of my dad, right? Could you please just look for it, please? I just need this necklace, right? Because he says over and over, can't you see I'm in pain here? I just need somebody to help me.
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I don't- I don't remember. So when he comes to Randall's house- Is it back? That's a good note. We have to find that out. I'm not 100% sure.
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We'll keep watching the show, because the episode ends with him coming to Randall's house. Again, because he had called Kate before to try to have someone help him out. Now you see him at his brother's doorstep, and he's clearly looking. Maybe he's going to ask for help. He's asking for help, and Randall tells him, hey, man, I already know. And Kev's like, Kate lost a baby.
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With the flashback too. It's like, who's gonna walk next? And it's like, come on, number two. Number two. And we're setting it up for Kate's episode. So that means one of my favorite episodes.
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Who wrote this, John? One of our favorites. K.J. Steinberg. Of course it was K.J. Man, K.J. is a beast. K.J.
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We have beasts in the writers' room. Please come and join us so that we can talk in depth about your episodes.
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Whole time. Front to back. Yeah. I remember reading it out. I was like, KJ, you wrote something special. And just real quick to Justin, who's off tracking people on CBS or whatnot.
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The dude is like, when you go and tell him stuff, Like they say, oh, thanks, man.
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He's so like under the radar. But I remember we were going to all go out to eat. John and Glenn had this restaurant and he had invited a couple of us to go grab a bite. Yeah. And he he's like, no, I got to work on this episode. Yeah. Right. Like he couldn't go like because he was so focused and understandably so. Like it was a daunting one to carry. And he executed it beautifully.
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Beautifully. We love you, Justin. Thank you so much for this episode and for all six years. This was exceptional. We'll be right back with more That Was Us.
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Silver Fox, and then a couple other times we'll see Kevin with a goatee. And remind me of this because he hated that goatee.
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Cause it's like, neither one of us were used to what Milo had to do in terms of painting, like gluing it on all the time. And every once in a while I would have to glue mine on. And I was like, I can't talk.
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The relationships in the show were just as meaningful to me. Jack and Rebecca's love was the kind most of us can only dream of, while Randall and Beth were the ultimate team showing us how a true partnership filled with love, laughter, and respect should be.
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Even Toby and Kate's journey, though sad at the end, I appreciated the very honest and relatable depiction for so many couples who grow apart despite the strong love they share and ultimately separating turns out to be what's best for everyone involved.
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The sibling conflict between Randall and Kevin resonated with me too, as I've had similar disagreements with my brother, especially around the care of our elderly parents. And Sophie and Kevin's love story? Well, it touched my heart because I ended up with my childhood love after many unhealthy relationships and years spent alone.
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Beyond the writing, acting, and directing, one of my favorite things that I don't think enough credit is given to is the show's fabulous wardrobe, music, and props. As a Gen Xer, having grown up in the 70s and 80s, the nostalgia it brings back makes the whole story come alive even more. A lot has changed in my life since that last episode aired.
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Last year, I became very ill with long COVID, which has left me mostly bedbound and housebound as I slowly try to recover. Revisiting This Is Us has been a source of comfort again during hard times. With this latest rewatch, I'm noticing new things, appreciating all the little magical moments sprinkled throughout the big plot lines that make the show so special.
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I did my series rewatch before the podcast came out, but now I'm starting all over again. one episode a week to relive it all over again with you when the Tuesday podcast drops. Thank you for creating such an incredible show that has been and continues to be such a comforting gem to me personally.
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That's why he talked the way that he talked because you move there and it's like. It pops off. Pops right off.
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Thank you for showing up each week for the podcast, for the priceless insights and behind the scenes commentary. It's been a joy to revisit with you and get a glimpse into the real people behind these beloved characters. It's easy to see now how you were able to bring them to life so brilliantly. With immense gratitude, Lori.
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I do not know the answer to that. I don't think so.
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Anybody else wants to connect with us, please feel free to email us at thatwasuspod at gmail.com.
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That's it for this episode of That Was Us. Thank you guys for joining us. We'll see you again next week. Take care.
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We need to find out if that was a real beard or not.
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He was absolutely beautiful in terms of just seeing someone hitting rock bottom.
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We say it time and time again, naked with his clothes on.
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We had a wonderful letter in our fan segment from Lori, just a love fest to all the different facets of the show, but how she related to Kevin in particular and his addiction. We're wishing you all the best.
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Let's text her. Text her and we'll continue to talk about this, right? Because he's on a binge. It's clear he hasn't gone out. He hasn't showered or not. The maid for the hotel.
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Martina comes in and she's like, do you need anything? And he clearly, he's making a phone call. He truly is making a phone call. He's unhinged.
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So Manny and I have been having this conversation for a long time. I'm going to go back to when I first read the episode, because we got the three episodes coming up focused on each of the big three in the past and in the present, right? And I read Kev's episode, and I was like, this is really good. And then I saw Kev's episode. Yeah. And I was like, this is the shit.
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silver fox and then for like randall's wedding i think he had a goatee or something like that he did have a goatee that's right yes we gave him a little goatee zoe thank you for playing the game you are a champion you're a champion that was amazing we love you talk to you later you're welcome bye Wow. That was a great fake beard.
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And he's saying, that's not going to be to the whatever. That's on the 20th. And he's like, yeah, that's tomorrow. And he's like, oh, snap. And he goes to Martina, do you think I should do it? And he goes, does it mean you have to leave this room? She's like, then, yeah. Get out of here. Maybe you need to take a shower. She was great, by the way. She was wonderful. She was exceptional.
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Yeah. Okay, so old high school wants to honor me. Oh, we go back to the young three filling out college applications, right? Yes. So this is something that we revisit in all three episodes. You see Kev has an application for Notre Dame, right? And while this is all happening, the lights go out. Jack has to go fix the... The breaker in the basement or something. Picks it back up and whatnot.
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And so Kev... is there's about to be the coach for Pitt is about to come to the house.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rebecca's icing a cake. And he is being a prick. Kev is in his robe. And shout out to the mid-90s because he's wearing his crop top. And just quick anecdote, if I may. Please. Wore a crop top underneath my football pads all seven years that I played football.
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There was one year, senior year, we went on an eight-game winning streak, and I said I was not going to wash this crop top until we lost the game. Right. I would go back to my locker, and it would have crusted over. You have to understand this, man. Oh, yeah. Because the salt is—and so I would have to, like, squeeze it to give it shape and work it out or whatnot. You understand, Mandy.
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And then eventually, as I would sweat, it would loosen up again and get that nice form fitting in it. And then I would hang it back up again. And then the salt would start to burn your nipples.
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So he's like, why am I getting dressed up for it's just Pitt? Like he's being very pejorative, dismissive, just rude. Entitled. Entitled in everything, right? So they tell him, go put on some pants and a shirt with a collar, get yourself together, right? Should we stick with that timeline and then go back to the current?
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It jumps back and forth between the two, but it's interesting. So he eventually does go, puts a collar shirt on, puts on pants. The coach gets there.
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Recognizes his talent. He says, man, you're going to be playing like in your first year. And he goes, well, Kev's like, am I going to be starting? And you can see Jack and Rebecca both be like bristle.
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No, thank you. And so then he goes like, well, you'd be a part of the great tradition of Pittsburgh quarterbacks, Joe Montana. Joe Montana went to Notre Dame. Like he shut it off real quick. And like, and Jack is like, bro, what are you doing? Like, what is your deal? And even as I'm watching it, like Logan was so good in it.
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Like when you hate the person that's doing it, but you hate them because they're doing it so well. You're like, quit being a douche.
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Dude, right? Before the coach got there, This was important. He said, you think we can move dad's AA stuff out of the way? Because you get, you have a sense that like, there's something about Jack going through this AA thing that is, is bothering him.
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Justin Hartley stuck his foot so deep in this episode that like, it's probably in my top 10 of episodes of the show, maybe even top five.
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Okay. So door closes, Jack turns to him, get out of my sight. Okay.
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And so he goes, he's talking to him about how lucky he is to be in this place, to have a coach from this school who's interested in you. And he's like, it's not luck, it's talent. I mean, like each time you think that he's been as douchey as he could be, he takes it like a step higher, right? Jack tells him it was embarrassing to watch you behave just like you did.
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He looks him in the face without blinking and he goes, I know the feeling well.
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Absolutely. So because, okay. So if we're sticking in that timeline before we go back up to the front then. What you said was wrong. Oh, wait, wait, sorry. I'm jumping around.
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He goes, good, because he goes, I'm not strong. Wait, no, wait, I'm sorry. I'm jumping around. I don't know what timeline I'm in. I'm getting confused between the two.
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We'll be right back with more That Was Us. Life can pull us in so many directions, kind of like our characters on This Is Us. And when things get hectic, finding time for yourself isn't always easy. That's why we love Peloton. Peloton has the convenient and varied instruction we all need to stay on track.
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Like Randall, who's always pushing himself, would probably love someone like Robin Arson. While Rebecca might go for a more soulful yoga session with Aditi Shah. Allow me to give a special shout out to my girl Jess Sims for the dope Sims 60 that she always brings the pain on. Adrian Williams with the Thunder 45. I love you guys.
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The first time the kids see the snow, I just want to make it as special and magical as possible for them.
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Totally. And let's be honest, finding housing when you're on location isn't always easy. I mean, how nice would it be to have a cozy, lived-in space instead of just a generic hotel room? That's why I love the idea of Airbnb. It feels like home, even when you're far from it. And it's not just work trips. Imagine heading out with friends to see your favorite team play an away game in a big city.
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You rent a place big enough for everyone, with a full kitchen and space to hang out before and after the game. It's way better than cramming into separate hotel rooms. So whether you're off on your next big adventure or just want to make the most of the space you're not using, Airbnb is the way to go.
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It's a win for you because you get to earn a little extra cash while you're away and in turn provide the perfect home for someone looking for their perfect stay.
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Jack comes up to Kevin, he asks him what's going on with him because he doesn't, like even Jack, like it wasn't anger. He was like, what is going on? I'm so confused as to this level of insolence that you'd like giving to me that I'm just sort of like befuddled, right? So he winds up leaving and then Kev walks out of his room to see Jack on the phone with his sponsor.
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I call my kids love bug. So I was like, oh, I hope one day they're not gonna be like.
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Watching it, I was gutted. I'm like, this is the last thing in the world I want my child to hear.
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And this storyline sort of wraps up with, you know, the next morning, everyone's avoiding going downstairs.
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I believed it. I bought it. I was like, he knows what he's doing.
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Not always shorn, but chopped. Chopped off.
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And Toby, you just continue to try to like... tell her like, you're amazing.
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And it was a real good, it took a turn in a different direction.
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So she's trying to take care of herself for the baby.
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Slowly but surely. Masterful, man. I know, I know. It's true.
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Oh my gosh. No, thank you. Thank you for watching. Thank you again for that really beautiful message.
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Uh-huh. Yeah, you can couch it in that. It's Meryl Streep. Oh, OK. OK. I thought you were gonna say some like hot young babe. She's gorgeous.
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Okay, Meryl Streep, Donald Glover, who's...
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Rebecca chats with her mom at the doctor, finds out she had chicken pox when she was three.
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Oh man, hopefully I'll do the work, so.
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On today's episode of That Was Us, we will be discussing Season 2, Episode 17, This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life. Through a powerful series of flashbacks, we witness Deja's journey from birth to the present as she navigates her mother's struggles, deals with the insanity of the foster system, and ultimately finds her way into Randall and Beth's home.
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And the colors, bright citrus, yellows, juicy, pinks, cool greens. It makes Easter baskets pop without the sugar overload. Those mini little bath bombs, those little cutie bath bombs, they fit perfectly inside those little plastic Easter eggs.
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Mother and daughter. Totally.
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She bad, like, not bad being bad. When I saw Pam Grier come on the screen, I was like, oh, right. Because I've been watching Pam Grier as well. I thought to myself, I'm like, I don't know what the... the kind of Mount Rushmore of, what'd you say, bad bitches? Is that what you said? Something like that. But she's on it. She's up there. She's on it.
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It's literally like a scene between Randall and Deja with the roles flipped. Totally, totally.
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Please.
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Of course. Okay. I just thought that was a fun little quick Easter egg. It was great. Anyway, sorry. Isn't it interesting, the basic, I mean, I didn't even realize it until I'm out into the world, like how prepared I was without being aware that I was being prepared. like how to do laundry, how to open a can, like things that when, if you end up parenting your parent, that's a problem.
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But also when we lose parents young, changing a car tire, you know, all of these self-sufficiency things that I know how to do. And then finding my blind spots. You're also an Eagle Scout, bro. You should have felt fairly prepared. Sure, sure, sure.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
You want to know what a blind spot is? Give it. Here's a blind spot. Yeah. Chris, at age 25... goes to get his first apartment. Mm-hmm. Like, that I went to go get. Yeah. Like, not the company that I was with got for me. Sure. Or I was sharing with roommates my first apartment by myself. Yeah.
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So I went and saw the apartment, talked to the landlord, said, this place is great, and then showed up on the move day, on the move-in day, and the landlord was surprised to see me because I never... Applied? Rented the apartment.
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Yeah, I thought it was like a handshake thing. Guys, my stuff was in a U-Haul out front.
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Luckily, there was another apartment available in the building. I moved into the same building into a different apartment.
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Because if you don't know, you don't know. Yeah, I get that. No blind spots. I'm the only one.
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I mean, now we don't need to.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
I don't either. But luckily, the world has evolved past it, you know what I mean? Like, there are just certain things. Like, when you were young, was there anything that, like, when you went to do it... God, I'm so bad at remembering all of this stuff. Did you shrink an entire load of laundry? Did you... I'm sure I did.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
I mean, it's an origin story of addiction, right? Yeah. We get to watch in a single episode of television, like, the very... pedestrian everyday things that happen to people all the time, that when they line up a certain way, a person develops these coping mechanisms or these way of dealing with these codependencies and codependency shows up in a certain way.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
And if you are not equipped with the emotional tools to handle any of these things, you reach out to external forces, whether that's other people or alcohol or work or whatever it is, toxic relationships, to try and solve your problem because you're unequipped to do it on your own. I mean, you can be. It just takes a lot more work than that.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
There's no one you can't love if you know everything about them. Or at least know more of the picture. If you hear someone's story and you hear what they've been through, obviously it doesn't excuse bad behavior or abuse or anything like that. But it begins to give you an idea of how this person arrived in this place.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
anything no they're just being and we're sort of like assigning meaning to their being right now and it's a defense mechanism right because it's it's it's a deep deep uh animalistic tribal survival technique. Yeah. Right. You were saying like we identified difference. Right. And difference means you don't live here. Right. In this village or in this family. Right.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
So we need to learn a lot more about this person before we can trust them before they can take our daughter to a restaurant.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Like we do it just, or I do it speak in the I term, just kind of like that all day long. Yeah. Boom, boom. And these people are gone. I'll never see that car again. I'll never see that person on sidewalk again. I'll never interact with that person in a store again. Instead of, instead of, you know, if I'm, if I'm gonna, if I'm gonna make up a story, might as well make up a good one.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
A positive one.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Give them the benefit of the doubt. Sure. Give them some compassion because my, my, my survivalist, you know, flinch nature is gonna take over enough. I don't need to encourage it. Yeah. More That Was Us after these words from our sponsors.
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Sometimes I'm checking in once every few months for a little, what would you call it? Maintenance therapy. I hear you.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
I love it. If you hear a little squeak in your car, you go see a mechanic, right? Yes, you do. So if you got a little squeak in that brain. Come on, man. Go see a professional. I feel you, man.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
They offer a range of high-quality items at prices within reach, like 100% Mongolian cashmere sweaters for $50, washable silk tops and dresses, and 14-karat gold jewelry. And for the little ones, this is what I was talking about. They have this stellar selection of bamboo onesies and organic cotton PJ sets and tons of cute prints for babies and toddlers.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Plus, they have the sweetest cashmere cardigan and coordinating beanie. And the best part?
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Wait, wait, wait, should we save it for the Patreon?
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
I don't think that's that minor. I mean, that's pretty blatant.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
There's no- Did you- Acknowledgement. Yeah. Did you bench press that roommate for a year? You're like, guess what, buddy? Now you're my- He's a big- Now you're my weights.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Yeah. And it worked. So, yeah.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Yeah. Thank you, buddy. He's like, guess what? That's fine. You can have those quarters.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
I'm going to need you in my room every morning at 8 a.m.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
It's also, I don't know who's in our writer's room, but it's a line that gets used in recovery a lot. Is it? Yeah. That like, once you won't believe the, the big, beautiful life that you can, you can have. It's it's so whoever's in, I don't know. I don't know who's who and what's what, but yeah, yeah. It's, it's an interesting kind of like needle that threads through this whole, wow.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Cause we get in these cycles. Right. And, and, and these cycles can be like a riptide.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Right. Whether it's the foster system or, or becoming unhoused or, but, but, but also these systems of, of positivity, once you get caught up in them, they almost become self perpetuated. Yes. In the same way that, that these systems where, you know, you see Deja making one stupid mistake of shoplifting or whatever, whatever the thing is that gets somebody in a system. Yeah, man.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
And they can become riptides. They could become very hard to get out of. They can become more perpetual.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
You know? And they all read the same creepy ass book.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
I think when we encounter people, we encounter people as they are in that present moment. The situation that they're in, the way that they appear to us mostly because we take things at face value, probably to a detriment. When I see people or people treat me a certain way, I make up a story.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Yeah. She did them with perfect integrity. Because myself as an actor, when I get into a character like that, I find myself even trying from the inside to fix that person.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Because I don't want to be that person. But she does it with perfect integrity.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
And listen, we're going to go to a break right now. But also, if you could help us spread the word about the podcast, we're still trying to quote unquote grow the show. So if everybody listening could tell, I don't know, why don't you tell one person? That works for me. Tell one person, send them an episode, send them your favorite episode of the podcast. I like that.
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And ask them to join us so we can keep this thing going. For shizzle. And yeah, we put a lot of thought into the advertisers that we bring on this show. We use the products, we make sure that we like the products and that we believe in them, that we stand behind them. So if you could support those businesses, they help support the podcast. They keep supporting us. That's right.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
There's the joy of acting.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Take it away, Sterling. Save all the compliments. Yeah, save it, save it. Introduce the woman.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
in my head about why that person did that, why they're acting that way, how they feel about me, blah, blah, blah. And a lot of times, my storytelling is negative. I have a negative bent. If someone cuts me off in traffic, that's because that person is an intentional asshole who's out to get me. I can fantasize in a way that leads me, that can lead negative. What this show does
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Oh, interesting.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Turns out you did.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Yeah.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
How much fun was it working with Sterling K. Brown?
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
I was terrified. The comedy side of this is from your perspective. Yes. Of this guy who, not knowing Dan, not knowing him at all, shows up with his idea. And everyone drinking champagne. It's too good. It's like a Ricky Gervais sketch.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
is shows you these backstories, and it kind of taught me how to shift to a compassionate narrative. Gotcha. Right? Because that's what we learn with all these characters.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
If you have a problem with anybody in this show or you think you know why they are the way they are, what this show is going to show you is every little step that seems maybe insignificant, there's a lot of them in this episode, that are like, oh, this little moment that seems like,
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Try to rewrite history for your performance.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
And the last episode ends with them living in their car. And you see, I see people in Los Angeles all the time living in their car. And I'm sure for every person that I've seen, there is a new story about how they got there. And all the little things that need to happen for someone to end up in that situation. And like you said, how we're all not that far from that.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
They all moved on to pickleball. Pickleball ruined golf.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Everybody's playing pickleball.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
And what's your handicap?
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
That's right. Consider yourself retreaded.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Yeah. That's right. And it's a simple foundation of trauma. Yeah. A traumatic situation. that lays the foundation for all of this. A 16-year-old having to process becoming a parent, which I can barely do at 40 years old.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Yeah. I know. It's like, that was it? Not only, Shelly, you just kill her off right then.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
So this is an interesting theme that's going on in our show, right? About, you were talking about it with your kids about when Jack passes away, Rebecca was talking about it, and making sure that they don't have to take over any of the parental responsibilities here. Your job is to be kids, right? But as we get older, We do.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
It is important that we become parental with our parents at the right time. So it's interesting to... Because the passing of a matriarch or a patriarch implicates that the child has now officially become, hopefully, an elder in the lineage. And a lot of people get older. A lot of people age, but not very many people become elders.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
So as we raise our kids, we want to prepare them, set them on that path of wisdom and connection and becoming elders. And eventually we will become like children ourselves and need taking care of. Hopefully our children will be able and willing to do that, but they should only have to do that at a certain point. Not five.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Let me know when we want to get into hot takes about Goodnight Moon too, because I got some. Drop it right now.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
I know it's a heavy episode. Here it comes.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Hot take. That book is creepy as hell.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Good night, nobody, Mandy?
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Good night, nobody.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Okay, question one. Do you want us to have a Patreon? Question two. Do you want me to do a dramatic reading of Good Night Moon on our Patreon? Hopefully they're asleep by the time you get to Good Night Moon. Because I will do it. Oh, man.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
If they let me do... a dramatic reading of Goodnight Moon, it'll be as good as Sam Jackson's Go the Fuck to Sleep. Because, have you heard that?
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
It's great. Because that book is creepy AF.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
It skips out of the rhyming scansion.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Good night, socks.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Good night, clocks.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Good night to nobody giving a fucks. But Good Night Nobody is the creepiest, laziest moment in book publishing history.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
God, I'm so glad. Where was the editor? The words Good Night Nobody on a blank page for anyone who's not a parent. Because if you are, you've seen this book.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
Anyways, hot take over.
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Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
Yeah. Randall's definitely not living his dream.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
They're at like a model airplane toy store.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
I was about to say, there is a lot of privilege just in the act of dreaming.
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Kate's Fertility Treatment | "Katie Girls" (303)
I don't think I ever could have imagined or dreamed of this.
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It's Okay to Not Be Okay | "Déjà Vu" (S2E3) with special guest Lyric Ross
There goes the honey.
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It's Okay to Not Be Okay | "Déjà Vu" (S2E3) with special guest Lyric Ross
Go ahead, tell all the ladies listening right now how defeating it was. Just so everybody aware of just how much it hurts.
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It's Okay to Not Be Okay | "Déjà Vu" (S2E3) with special guest Lyric Ross
When you put yourself out there like that.
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It's Okay to Not Be Okay | "Déjà Vu" (S2E3) with special guest Lyric Ross
That's Susan, not Sterling.
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It's Okay to Not Be Okay | "Déjà Vu" (S2E3) with special guest Lyric Ross
Everybody goes crazy for Susan.
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It's Okay to Not Be Okay | "Déjà Vu" (S2E3) with special guest Lyric Ross
Oh, there it is.
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It's Okay to Not Be Okay | "Déjà Vu" (S2E3) with special guest Lyric Ross
Who's the voicemail from?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Was he already upstairs asleep? Yeah, no, we were, we go upstairs.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Randall comes in.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Same. I felt late. First real kiss, there was a truth or dare sort of peck. No, 13.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Look at that smile.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And they didn't get caught on?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Oh my God, I can't remember. No. There's been so many. No, that's not true.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah, exactly. God, I can't remember, you guys.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
No, no, I truly, I'm like...
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Okay, go, go.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Oh, wow, tongue.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I believe so.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
My first kiss, not real kiss, but was with Jesse. We were in a production of the Christmas Carol together. He played my brother.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
No, no, it wasn't on stage. Was it a reinterpretation of the Christmas game? Yeah. It was a game of truth or dare backstage. Man, this is Tiny Tim.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
That sounds right.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
We were the cratchits. God bless us. But we played a game of truth or dare, and he was my first kiss.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I want to say I was 13. Okay.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah. But very innocent. There was no kissing with tongues for... A very long time.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I was like recording music about being in love and hadn't French kissed a boy before.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Got a lot of blame.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Well, we got a bite on the house. She's like, we got a bite on the house. Right.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Just remember we said that.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
It was only two years old. I'm like, what?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
It's not what he signed up for. Yeah.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Fire starts.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And he's like, let me go ahead and add this song in there that's going to make everyone weep.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
It's Super Bowl Sunday.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
That's right. That sounds right.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
The chili is on. Jack and Rebecca clearly have their sort of traditions, which is chili on Super Bowl. They do shots, except this year it's orange juice and not vodka.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I hear it and I'm like, oof, takes me back immediately to this moment.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Catching fire. Catching fire. While simultaneously reliving some of the most important moments in their life. Ugh, it's like... I was weeping.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah. A mess. And you see the note burning to Kevin. That's right. I mean, it was just like so much.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
So that's what happens in the past.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah, you like slam the computer.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
A lot about the chili. Chili's good.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
This is all scripted.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I give all glory to God.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah. Again, let's clock that for later.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Same, same.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
How old?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Oh, okay.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah, what's the biggest major city?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Is Jeff, our producer, just went to find a house?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Oh, you gotta find it. Maybe it's off-market now.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Sterling, you got me into spelling bee. And then I got Taylor into spelling bee.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I mean, the scroll is, I feel, I feel not great about it.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Correct.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I don't either.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
No. I keep the baby monitor on all night, so I'm like, oh, wow, 12 hours.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Oh, we're cool.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
We're totally leveled up.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Sure. This is the last Super Bowl with the kids too. So there's a lot, the big deal being made about that. This clearly is like a huge event in the Pearson household. It's something that kind of collectively do all together as a family every year. And the fact that this is the last one before everybody flies away is, you know, the parents are feeling that.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
No, you are such a great leader.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Wait, can we also talk about the fact that, like, where did he go? One of the great TIU mysteries. Wait.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Don't start. I love knowing that I'm going to have a place that actually feels like home, especially if I need to pack specific things for my little ones. Not to get too heavy, but we were displaced from the fires and we...
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
relied on airbnb we moved from airbnb to airbnb all over this city of los angeles over the last couple of weeks and i'm so grateful because you can get specific you can get granular about exactly what you need like with little ones if they have a crib or a pack and play or toys yeah making sure there's not a staircase i love airbnb it makes you feel like you're staying at home yes you have the creature comforts at home that you just you can't get when you're staying in a hotel
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Does your family love the dog?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
carries that trauma.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Does this guy, is this guy fanatical about dogs? Does this guy love dogs?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Crazy about them.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I am. He's going to wear you down.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Wait, do the kids and Ryan, are they obsessed?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
That's probably why. That's probably why. Hold on.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Wait, is this the person that was there for the first season?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Oh, I love him.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
But then you can- Well, dogs, Kate and- I love it.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Wait, so did you eat a tuna sandwich?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
What did you put on your face to make it alluring?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Oh, okay.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Fine. A lick on the nose is cool.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I was like, oh, he's still doing it.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Oh, the slow motion gun show?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And Justin's in slow motion just like with a sledgehammer.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Well, Kate has applied to Berkeley.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Oh, who does?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And she finds out that she's gotten a final round of Berkeley.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Hello.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Kevin is applying to Allegheny Community College. This is Allison Randall's girlfriend that's sort of asking Kevin what he's doing because she hears that Sophie has applied to NYU and she's waiting to hear about that.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And Kevin is... you know, pretty down on his choices that he has in front of him.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah. They're really good about letting the characters carry that with them.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah, but she also won the Writer's Guild.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And there's not a timing issue. Okay, point number two.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
That was a dramatic reading.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah, and go, I don't know what's going to get cut out of this one. Everything's great.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I'm like, this is impossible. Why did you write it this long?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Agreed. Agreed.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah, the writers are the reason you love the show.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I think that was just Milo.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
With a tape cassette.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
That's his style.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Stealth videographer.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
For the rest of their lives.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Exactly. Quit. Because it doesn't get any better than that?
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
No, it's this episode.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah, like I don't see myself the way you see me. So stop doing that.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
The things aren't working anymore.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Alina, no. Ah!
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
You are just phenomenal. Of course. Man, I could talk to you all day. Just listen to you guys. Thank you for your time.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Oh, yeah.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Admiration, love. Just. Unconditional.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Shut up about it.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah, like never stop seeing me that way.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah, don't placate me.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Goes to Titanic.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Like corn muffins.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And he's like, you handled the renovation here.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
And she's like, well, I kind of did. Yeah. I did the finances and I was organized and I coordinated everything. And I think like the idea starts to dawn on her. Like, I am pretty good at that.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
I think I could handle that.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
Yeah, true. I was like, that sounds fun.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
More That Was Us after this short break.
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A Change of Heart | "That'll Be The Day" (S2E13) | with special guest Lena Waithe
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20/20 Vision | "The 20's" (S2E6) with special guest Zoe Hay
Wait, wait, wait, let's sit there.
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20/20 Vision | "The 20's" (S2E6) with special guest Zoe Hay
Heaven forbid we challenge our audience to think differently about...
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20/20 Vision | "The 20's" (S2E6) with special guest Zoe Hay
I'm getting eaten by a shark. Okay, let's see some more pictures.
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20/20 Vision | "The 20's" (S2E6) with special guest Zoe Hay
It's segments like this. I'm getting eaten by a shark. It's segments like this. Oh, no. This is why you want to watch on YouTube. Because you don't know what you're missing. Did you know that you can watch podcasts, too? Oh, no. I'm getting eaten by a shark. Go to YouTube. Mash that subscribe button. Tell all your friends. Mash that subscribe button.
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Take your elbow and mash that subscribe button. That was another episode of That Was Us.
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Oh, Mandy. All right, clip that.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
There's energy until there's not. That's right.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
He's like, these guys shit on everything. We're just trying to bring a little health to the world.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
This is a good one.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
There's a lot of landfills out there, Jack.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
It's like, yeah, I got this proposal that I got to finish. City planning something. Yeah, we're like, ref, what do you do, girl?
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
Is he? Okay.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
Oh, my goodness gracious.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
Is like, all right, we got to switch this baby out.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
We'll talk through it.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
This was Sam's suggestion. Maybe we should have Brian on the show to be a co-host.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
I love you, I love you. I love you guys! I started off the whole thing saying I love Ryan too. Go ahead. It's on record. It was early. It was just too early.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
And she's like, and I wound up meeting you.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
Toby tells everybody, shut up! Shut up! Shut the hell up!
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
to blow shit up and then I'll see you later leave the scene I don't have to deal with the consequences of what I just caused see you later I'll be in my trailer You do remember that.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
It's always a surprise.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
Yeah, I mean, it was- Were you excited? Yes.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
So excited. Yeah. So excited. You got the big envelope.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
Even though they know we met freshman year college. They don't know how old I was. You're some wunderkind.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
Harvard.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
Boogie Houser? Bougie Houser. Bougie Houser. There we go. Bougie Houser is better. Keep the whole thing in for the Bougie Houser.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
I did. Okay.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
You see how she held that one?
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
You see how she held that one? She was like, well, let me just let y'all know Harvard right there like that.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
That was us.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
For posterity, I put it on record. You're the homie.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
I think you did just fine.
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Discovering Their Roots | A Philadelphia Story (302) with special guest Ryan Michelle Bathe
She has to do scripts like voice memos. People read them too.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
It snaps, yeah.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Yeah.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
And then it's not until a couple episodes later, I guess, we'll talk about it in a few episodes from now, but where you see the seeds of that with Rebecca and her mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? That it's all being, it all kind of gets...
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
And Rebecca says, I understand.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
People be traveling at the holidays.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
I'm looking forward to it. I'm excited. Yeah, I've been traveling a lot, actually, back and forth to Toronto for this new gig. And I'm checking out the entire city with Airbnb. I get a different apartment every time I go in a different part of the city.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Mandy, nobody knows Toronto better than I do.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
I have been using Airbnb for years and it's become my go-to for finding places that feel like home, no matter where I am in the world. It's also a wonderful way to share my own space with travelers, offering them the comfort of a home away from home. We've done so many renovations on our house. I've been thinking these renovations are too good. I have to share them with the world.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Hosting just makes sense. Come on. And it might be for you as well. Yes.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
It was pretty great.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Yeah. It was a pretty great mom moment though when she starts singing and you're like shushing people in the bar. Hey, shh, quiet. She's singing. You like point up at the stage. That was good.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Well, the big one was I felt the way I felt because of you. And she said, what do you mean because of me? Because you existed. Oof, yeah.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
But let's talk specifically about- One of the things that I was struck by about this episode is because Toby has such rare, it's very rare that we are all together. Sure. And it's one of the rare scenes where it's just a big ensemble. Almost everyone in the same room for long periods of time getting to play off each other.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Randall has been dragging his feet.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
It didn't occur to me until this exact moment that my family went through this. Really? Literally this moment. Tell me. Tell us. What's really shocking to me is that I'm just realizing it now. Because it's your life, it just feels like, oh, that's a thing that happened. But when I was eight or nine, we fostered, essentially fostered my cousin. Okay.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Because his parents were having difficulties with addiction. Got it. And he lived with us for... I don't know how many years, three or four years. But yeah, it was a really, kind of shocking, tricky situation for our family.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
And to bring somebody else into the house who was struggling with those things, it made it, I could tell that it was like really hard for him and really hard for my parents and maybe not so hard for me and my brother, like it was having another friend or family member living with us. But yeah, it was a shocking,
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
shocking to the quote-unquote ecosystem yeah you know as as well as it worked out you know ended up working out for everybody but um yeah i'm more shocked that i'm sitting here realizing oh wait i've been through this exact
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Situation, but as a kid, not an adult.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Yeah.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
He just takes that little win for himself. It's this interesting theme of family members, not... I don't know what the word... what the theme is, but it's family members trying to...
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
get validation from a third party family member right right so it's the same type of thing with rebecca and toby's yeah between the two of them like am i am i the what's going on here can you help maybe can you help me like like and and family members holding different boundaries
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
And everyone flies in to see Kevin returning to the Manny for a very special episode. Correct. And everyone's flown in and are going to watch the taping.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Yeah, this is another one of those personality traits of, like, Jack Pearson's son. You know, that Jack Pearson and mostly Randall, but even his other children, but Randall in the most Jack Pearson way, has an idea of how this is gonna be. No, let me tell you how this is gonna work. We are leaving here with, you know what I mean?
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
And he's attempting to maybe not honor the past, but in Jack's case, a lot of times like correct the past, like, no, I'm in control now. I'm gonna make it right. I'm gonna heal this. I'm gonna make it perfect. And it's the same type of thing we see a lot with Randall's, related to Randall's anxiety is this need for like control of the situation. Absolutely. Everything to be, you know.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Did you know she was gonna mount up like that?
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
You kind of got to support. You have to, you have to listen, everyone. You have to support the buttocks.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Listen, if you're going to mount your man, you have to let him support the buttocks.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Take it from me.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
And for anyone who doesn't know, Milo Ventimiglia at this point has already played Rocky's son, right? Yes, yeah, yeah. So just so the, if you have any question about Milo's boxing pedigree, he is Rocky's son. He's Rocky's son.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
And it feels right. I wanna say yes. It's a very specific moment. where a parent should allow a child to comfort them.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Very specific. It's delicate. Yes.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
So you need to be an example of letting people in so that the others around you will let you in.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll be right back. We'll be right back.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
The meltdown. My favorite episode of the Manny.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
And that arch. You guys have that arch.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
And baseball.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
You didn't even need that. So now you tell everybody that at auditions, just in case.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Yeah, you may be close to Clooney, but this show is not ER. The Manny is not ER.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Go back through your Uber app. We want to talk to this driver, too.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Not because of our show, but because of his own talent has gone on. He has an incredible stand-up special called Cheeseburger that's on Netflix right now. He's got two podcasts, Whiskey Ginger, which is his interview podcast, and a podcast called Bad Friends, which we can shout out. But yeah, he's incredibly funny. And he's on Dave.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Yes, ma'am. That's right.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
That's right.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
You took two sides of guac.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Put them in your bag.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
You said, no, I think I have our new show.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
That's incredible. I am too.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Yeah, nobody was more unaware of how much this show would travel through time than old Mandy Moore. She was like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, how old?
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
So you get this show and within 48 hours, you are thrust into a very intimate relationship with two young men and you are to play siblings. And the roll of the dice that the three of you would get along. Yeah. as well as you did, is maybe impossible?
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Tell us about it. Tell us about meeting these two guys and how quickly this connection formed, if it was quick at all.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
And of course, Kevin is completely in support of everyone acting like they don't know what they're doing, except for Miguel. As soon as Miguel takes a photo, he's like, you know what, Miguel, just knock it. Just stop. Like you ruined it. Just stop.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Stop, stop, stop. Please stop.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Yeah. Yeah. Brutal. Brutal.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
I'm sure they showed him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Where can people find you online, on Instagram, things like that?
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
No, no, Steve Bierce just did it for him. And then...
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Don't you wish that you could be one of them? Yeah. Don't you wish you could be dope? Well, guess what? You can't. The good news is we all can be dope. You want to know how? All you have to do is rate us five stars. That would be dope. Boom. Leave the best review. Bam. That would be dope. And subscribe. Booyah. That would be the dopest. Easy peasy. And here we go. Here we go. Check these out.
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Let's see some love.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Back in the 90s when little white kids were still doing impersonations of black guys at talent shows.
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Boom! Somebody loves it. Such a fun listen, I agree. I loved this series so much, and I love hearing all of these BTS stories about it. Sterling K. Brown's laugh is my favorite sound in the world. It's true. Thank you all for making this podcast.
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thank you all for writing in yeah we love you so much it's awesome thanks for listening don't forget to uh rate review and subscribe subscribe that's right you hear it all the time for podcasts but you don't understand it how much it helps it really does it makes all the difference but thank you so much for these comments for future comments we are really really grateful
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Yeah, or you can give us a ring at 412-501-3028. That's the emotional support hotline.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
All right, he committed. He committed.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
That's right.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
We do. Probably. We do. Because if you put a grown ass man. Andrew Santino looks happier in that moment.
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And you realize that this big move that Kevin has made to... win Sophie back. In previous episodes, we talked about him saying, I didn't come here for this play, I came here for you. And then you realize it's always been for her. Everything has been for her. From the beginning.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Okay. Yeah. A little bit of Rebecca's mom coming through. Correct. We all do better than, hopefully- Than our parents. Than the generation before. Sure. But we all bring- A little bit with us, even unknowingly. I hear myself sometimes and I'm like, whoa, whoa.
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And...
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
Yeah, you didn't have any yo-yo notes.
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Interesting. Last night I was putting Bear to bed and it was the same type of thing where I took it a little too far and he drew the line where I was like, I love you, buddy. And he's like, I love you too. And I was like... there's a little bit of silence and I'm just in that like gushing. I'm like, yeah, I'm just so glad you're my son. And he goes, he's four.
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He goes, oh, I didn't want you to say that.
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She's got to stop going to the bathroom.
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She's like, okay, bye.
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A Lesson For Living | "A Manny-Splendored Thing" (S2E2) with special guest Hannah Zeile
And then you keep pushing. She goes, I don't want to.
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Yes, we're at the mani-taping. And Kate gets a phone call. Yes. Slowly, people, first of all... at a live three camera TV taping, everyone's sitting in the front row, the hardest job anyone has at one of those things is the audience. It takes hours to film an episode of one of those and they go back over jokes and they fix jokes and you have to laugh at the same joke.
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And that's why there's a warm-up person there throwing candy at you, passing pizza around, whatever they got to do, right? One of my favorite things is, which I guess we'll get back to you, is you letting slip to Beth, oh, these things take like three or four hours. And she's like, three or four hours?
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She doesn't find Kevin very funny. Which we'll get back to.
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But Kate gets a call while she's sitting in the front row that she's been called for a show at a bar that night, so she has to leave and go do sound check.
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Oh, yeah.
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My boy Miguel.
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Yeah.
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That's right.
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Y'all are sleeping on Miguel. Y'all are sleeping on my man Miguel. And John, when he comes in, just the innocent way he goes, do I smell pigs in a blanket? You sure do. And I say, boy, you got a nose on you, Miguel. You got a nose on you. As if pigs in a blanket is a specific smell.
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It's great.
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Homeward Bound | "Clooney" (S2E12)
I love the enthusiasm. The enthusiasm that you bring to it is so genuine and beautiful. I'm just waiting for my daughter.
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My morning's been good. My wife's got an audition today. It's always a good thing. When prospects are on the horizon. I told her that Chris said she should do the podcast sometime. And she's like, well, if you guys are dragging the bottom of the barrel and you need somebody, of course. I was like, you're not the bottom of the barrel, Bert.
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And then the brainstorm came. If we have one that focuses, an episode that focuses like on couples, which our show always focuses on couples, then maybe we all bring our spouses. That's fun.
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I think because up until this point, any time Madison says something, to the most part, you're like... It was an eye roll. Yeah. Why are you here? What is it? You don't have the same problems as us. And then there's this moment of empathy. And then there's this beautiful...
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an also comedic sort of thing that sort of like allows us to exhale a little bit with Madison saying, I finally have a best friend.
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And Kate was like, I guess, I guess is that what we are now?
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I thought that. Randall's storyline, because I think it's quick to sum up, because it's small, but then there'll be dividends later on in this season. Because you see him at the beginning of the episode, young Randall, doing something with a magic eight ball, opening it up. I was like, man, you're a real nerd. You're cracking open eight balls and changing them.
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Excited to go to the mall. He sees little red girl, Allison? Allison, yes. Allison. And he leaves, et cetera, because he doesn't have the nerve. Wasn't the right moment. Wasn't the right moment. And I'm wondering, I think there was something that happened. He goes to the food court with Miguel, Jack, and Kevin.
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And Miguel, and this will intersect, Miguel winds up talking to the fellas like, you never told him about Big Three Houses? And he's like, no. He's like, your dad was going to start his own construction company, building homes, et cetera. And you see Kev kind of looking at him like, huh. I wonder why he didn't do it.
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And then Jack says something to him like, you know, you own your choices, you stick to them and you see them through, right? And you see Randall for a second and be like, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go ahead and do this thing.
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And so then later in the episode, he goes back up to, I don't even know if this redhead chick knows who he is. Like, I'm wondering like where the, I'm sure something. They know each other from school. They know each other from school. And he asks if she would go out with him. And she's like, and he's like, well, you know what? Maybe you should consult the eight ball before you get a chance.
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And what does the eight ball say? Try not to think too hard about it or something like.
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Yeah, it had her name on it. I didn't catch that. So she's smiling. I was like, he got a little charm, a little smile. And so ultimately she does wind up going out with him. But that was sweet to see what happens. And it's also because... There will be personal resonance when we get to later on in this storyline.
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With like how it all ultimately winds up playing out. But that's the summation of that.
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It's really good. You know, that aspect of Jack is something that I have to check within myself. the desire to not have people feel down. You know what I'm saying?
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Yes. But also recognize that there's a time and a place for all things. It's okay to let people feel what they're feeling. You know what I'm saying?
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And I think for the longest time, it would make me uncomfortable. Like, hey, come on. Hello, my baby. Hello, my darling. You know, just trying to lift everybody up. But like, there's a time and a place. And I think it's become clear for me over time. But like, as that was happening, and as Kevin said that to his dad, he's like, hey man, why are you, the dude just lost his wife.
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I just lost my whole like future and everything. Like, can we just have a moment? And I was like, oh yeah, Ryan tell me that sometime.
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She most definitely does. So yeah, I'm just clacking that for myself. Yeah, I'm the same. Yeah.
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Let's do it. That aspect of that relationship is so... When you feel supported by your partner, even when like, it seems like it's not the prudent thing to do, but like your partner has your back, what an incredible feeling that is.
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You know what I'm saying? Like, okay, everybody else may think I'm nuts, but my girl, my dude, like they think I'm okay. I can do this. Must take a shot. You know what I'm saying? Jack and Rebecca, man, they're my parents.
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Present Randall? Yes, let's do present Randall. So he has to go pick up a box from William's building, right? This is of keepsakes or what have you. He says he'll pick it up and then he'll go to his- Job interview. Job interview. So he goes there, he gets the box. There's a lovely moment of him just being in the building and just sort of like William walks right past.
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It's like his father's spirit is still sort of permeating the edifice, if you will. And he gets the box. He goes out to his car. He's got sweaters and there's radio and all sorts of things. And then he finds a journal and like a poem. and a poem about this lady and how like, you know, he's sort of transfixed with this lady and everything. And then there's some sketches of who this is or whatnot.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, strategically placed for those on YouTube.
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And he's like, I gotta find out who this is. Who is this woman, right? Yeah. So he goes back into the building and he starts sort of asking people. Well, first he goes to visit Beth.
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I'm working on something. I got stuff to do. And she said, listen, you need to get a job. You know what I'm saying? It's not for the money or anything like that, but you need something to give your attention to.
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You know what I'm saying? It's going to be better for our relationship. It's going to be better for our family. And he's like, all right, cool. but he still goes back to ask some people if they know who this lady is, right? And the first moment he goes, like, did you know my dad, William? She's like, yeah, I know him. Like, did you know him like- Did you like him or did you love him?
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Come check us out. How about it? So this is, it's entitled Clooney. My first question I have, we all know because we've read the scripts and et cetera, et cetera. Do you think the audience remembered who Clooney was when they first see the cat running across the screen?
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Yeah, she goes, wasn't he a fancy man? It's like, oh, you mean gay? Oh, you mean gay?
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He goes through a few people and he's trying to find some information, whatnot. He winds up leaving. And I think he gets a call from Lloyd saying that he was always talking to the super. Let's talk about Lloyd. What do you want to say about Lloyd? Listen, Garrett Morris. Yeah. Legend. Another legend. Legend. Original cast member. Saturday Night Live. And that man is...
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He was funny when we were shooting. You know what I'm saying? He's up there in age or whatnot, but any opportunity he had to make people laugh, he seized it.
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It was kind of awesome. It was kind of awesome. We also had Don Lewis in this episode in the building as well, who is a series regular on A Different World.
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It's a great job. Michael O'Neill. I have a story. You have to remind me of the Michael O'Neill story because he was on Army Wives. He lives in my neighborhood. Does he really? Anyway.
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Okay. We'll get there when we get there to Michael O'Neill. Yeah. We'll be right back with more That Was Us. Life can pull us in so many directions, kinda like our characters on This Is Us. And when things get hectic, finding time for yourself isn't always easy. That's why we love Peloton. Peloton has the convenient and varied instruction we all need to stay on track.
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You can find whatever you're looking for. If I wanna focus on upper body, there's upper body workouts, there's glutes and legs workouts, there's core workouts, right? You got boot camps, you have runs, you have hikes, biking, whatever it is, is there.
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Some days, I want to challenge myself with a tough boot camp. Other days, I just need a 10-minute walk or a calming meditation. Pelotime gives you the ability to choose what you need, whether you're pushing yourself or taking it easy. And let's not forget the instructors. They are the best motivators out there. It's fun to imagine which instructors our characters would connect with.
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Like Randall, who's always pushing himself, would probably love someone like Robin Arson. While Rebecca might go for a more soulful yoga session with Aditi Shah. Allow me to give a special shout out to my girl Jess Sims for the dope Sims 60 that she always brings the pain on. Adrian Williams with the Thunder 45. I love you guys.
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It's all about finding your push and your power, no matter what season of your life you're in. And with Peloton, you've got the variety and motivation to do it all. Find your push, find your power with Peloton at onepeloton.com. But one of the other things that's happening is he's also finding about how William would help other people with things in the building.
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Like anytime I had- He was an advocate. Yes, about something, he would go and talk.
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The building's in a bit of disrepair. I go and talk to the super and I was like, were you and my dad in some sort of thing? She's like, child, please. No, he would just come to complain to me anytime somebody had a problem with their oven or like something in the building. He was constantly coming here and letting me know what was going on.
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And I was like, oh man, I was just trying to find this lady. And he's like, you know what? Give me a second. I got an idea. Because I think she knows. Do you think she knows who the lady is? Like when she tells him to go look in the apartment? Yeah. She's like, why don't you- Take a look around. Why don't you take a look around? He's like, I don't want to disrupt anything.
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We go, Randall goes into building, into the apartment looking around and just sort of feeling his father's presence and what have you, looking for any kind of clues he can. And he goes to the window and he looks out And there is a picture of Billie Holiday right across.
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Lady Day. And there's a little bit of a montage of William talking about, ah, Lady Day. You know, just enjoying that whole thing. And so it wasn't a lady per se. It was just... the space, you know? I mean, probably, because we open, did you know that episode opened with Billie Holiday as- Oh, right, the music. Yes.
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Yeah, with- As Clooney's running through. God bless the child. God bless the child. And so it dawns on Randall as he comes to his wife, he's like, I think I know what it is. He's like, I think we should get this building together, right? And rehab it and make sure that these people have the building, the space that they deserve. He wants more than a job. He wants a purpose.
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He wants a purpose, right? And he wants to do it with his partner. Which was, lead me to one thing. You guys, you make music with your husband. And it's a pretty harmonious experience, what you said. Look at that big old smile. She's just happy. She's like, yeah, he's pretty cool.
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Like you're not going to be watching Old Yeller and something's going to be going down.
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You guys have done music together as well. Have you done other ventures professionally together.
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I have, so the podcast, Ryan and I's podcast is like the first thing that we've sort of done together. And it went pretty smoothly. And it's interesting because I had a little bit of agita surrounding it because I'm like, if it goes bad, then when we go home, we have to talk about how it went bad.
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You know what I'm saying? The day at work, the car ride to work. Like sometimes I feel like absence helps the heart grow fonder in that sort of way. But I do, when I remember doing this show and I remember Randall's enthusiasm for being in partnership with his wife, I remember thinking that's something worth modeling, Brown. Yeah.
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Like if it can be done, not in a way that feels forced, you know what I'm saying? But like, it feels like, oh, Rye's skill set is this and Brown's skill set is this. Maybe those things fit together in a way that makes sense. We did a season one.
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So for you guys, in terms of how it works, does he just sit around and jam? Do you sit around and write? Do you write something and be like, Taylor, what do you think? And then does he get an idea about how to...
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I think that cat was like that. I don't think you're allowed to glue animal ears. Surely you could.
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There's, okay, wait. So I'm going to go back because we still have to get to present day Kev. We wrapped up Randall, yeah? Yeah.
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He said, you know, you see I'm trying to hang out with my mom. And you wind up showing up. Like, what's that about? What are you doing? And he said, you know. After therapy. Straight up.
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Well, you don't have to protect her from me. I'm her son. And he says, well, I'm her husband. And then he says, he being Kevin says. My father was her husband.
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That was so ice cold. Because again, Justin's delivery is never like sort of like, Justin doesn't go hot. He just goes like matter of fact. You know what I'm saying? It's the shiv. It's the prison shiv that you don't see coming. You think you're talking to each other.
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Look down, you got blood on your hand. And so later on, Kev is upstairs in whatever his upstairs bedroom is because clearly Rebecca and Miguel's house is bigger than- Than Randall. Than Randall and Beth's, right? But there you guys are watching like some sort of home- Renovation show, yeah. Home renovation show about the tiny homes, et cetera.
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And just having the best time and just laughing and smiling, hugged up under each other's arms. And Kev walks down and you see Rebecca sort of separate. from her husband and like, what's up, man? You need something? And he's like, no, I was just, you know, coming to see what's going on. I can't remember exactly what, but then later he goes to the kitchen.
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Him and Rebecca have a conversation saying, I noticed when I came downstairs, you kind of separated from Miguel. Like, was there a reason why? And she says,
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And it's almost like he realizes in that, I feel like in my mind, it's like, no, he really is her husband.
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Yeah. And I'm curious for audience members who are going through it at that time who are obviously having their own difficulties with Miguel. Yes. Like if any people settled at that point or if they were still... I'm sure... I feel like it was a gradual thing. I feel like different people... got to a place of comfort with Miguel at different times.
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Hopefully folks will let us know in the comments because we all know from the beginning that it is William's cat. Yes. But I'm curious to the audience is like, who's this cat?
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Is this the episode where you talk about, it's probably the next one. Like for a long time after your dad died, I didn't know like if happiness was going to, no, it's this episode. Because if happiness was going to be a part of my life anymore.
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Okay. The episode after the cat, we see the little cat montage, et cetera. We see Jack doing some woodworking, right? He's building an entertainment center.
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No, I was getting turned around. Yeah. Yeah. And I also think, because you said it's quieter, but you said he makes me laugh. Yeah. And you saw Kev be like, you know what, man, I got to cut this dude some slack. You know what I'm saying? This is her husband, right?
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Yeah. I feel like, listen, he's been in LA pursuing his career.
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And it's true to most folks that I know, and I don't know if you guys can speak to this personally, however tangentially. If you have a step-parent after watching your parents have been together for years, et cetera, and now all of a sudden you seeing them couple with somebody else, that's not an easy transition for most people. You know what I'm saying?
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Very excited, wants to have it ready to go before the Super Bowl. Yeah.
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There was a season where it lasted, and then that season ended, and they moved on to someone else. Because I feel like, and we'll get to this later on with Katobi or whatnot, I had my cousin who was divorced. Like people act like it's a failure. No. Right. And so like, maybe it was, it was supposed to be for that season of my life. This partnership was supposed to be for this time.
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In public. Scooby snacks. Okay. And then everyone wants to go to the mall. Jack goes to, Kevin's laid up in his cast having a pity party, but Jack takes everybody to the mall. Randall says, I want to go to the mall. And I'm like, why does Randall want to go to the mall? Like, okay, cool.
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And even though William only had a short time with Randall, he made it count. And Randall is determined in this episode to extend that connection just a little longer, looking for answers to a mystery.
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Okay, so then we go to the present, and Randall is helping Annie with this diorama. He's very excited. He gets all into it, et cetera. Do you guys remember dioramas? Did you? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Wait a minute, hold on. Just real quick. I have to, my question is, because he, Randall looks for William like on the pilot. Was it the pilot or was it like later on in the show? Do you know like after like what episode it was? Are you sure?
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This is such an incredible show. This is, kudos to our producers and to young Sullivan for like, they're like, they're like, let's, let's, let's not tell them what's going on. So, cause me and Mandy here, I'm like, I can't stop. I can't close my mouth.
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Dioramas top off in the Browns. They're still a thing. Oh, yeah. We did missions, California missions. Oh, cool. Wait, what do you mean when you say a mission?
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It's one of those things. I say it time and time again. You think you're making a little show. trying to like bring a little light, you know what I'm saying? Do your thing or whatnot. But like the number of lives that it has changed, impacted, transformed to that level. Like, I don't know if we'll ever do something again quite like it.
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Okay. Deal. Thank you very much. I look forward to it.
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Kind of. This is an unemployed dude who's pouring himself into whatever's in front of him at that moment. I ain't got nothing else to do.
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Is this the first time or do we hear any hints of Beth's occupation before episode 212?
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Public works. Public works, et cetera, right? She just lost a lot to, what did they? A Costco. A Costco. To a Costco. And then Annie's like, hmm, people probably want a Costco more than they want a. That was funny, because then Randall's like, hey, don't talk, your mama's upset.
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Yeah. Which is a brown move. Anytime Andrew says something to his mom that's just a little more sass than what it needs to be, you got to read the room, big dog. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes like, hey man, don't say it. You making life hard for me when you make her mad.
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So he says he's sorry that it's going on. He has a job interview later on that day, but he is so nonplussed about the whole thing. Like it's not, it's a job interview that anybody could do and doesn't get his- Beth would really like him to be happier about it. You know what I'm saying? More into it.
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She would like him out of the house doing something productive because Randall's not the dude that can just kind of be there and be cool. He's going to be in everybody's stuff, right? So there you go. Not doing anything for his juices. We'll go to Kate at OA. And she's talking about the wedding dress, right? And sort of has kind of bring some things up. My man wants the big wedding.
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So that means you got to have the big dress. And that's sort of bringing a few things up for me, but you know, this is what he wants. So we're going to make it happen. Madison makes a joke. I think my wrists are getting fat. She asked me that and they're like, okay, that breaks the tension.
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Homeward Bound | "Clooney" (S2E12)
Dan, so we always, our show does this thing where you kind of delve into something and it feels a certain way and there's always sort of like a slight tension release and it's not, it's not for like a pure laugh per se, but it's for like, so it doesn't become too heavy too soon.
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Homeward Bound | "Clooney" (S2E12)
I feel like he does a good job of finding the balance where it doesn't disrespect what happened immediately prior, but it's also how we kind of as human beings is like, we can't live that heavy all the time. Like even when folks ask us about the show, what is it like doing the show? Was it just sad all the time? I was like, we cracked up constantly.
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Homeward Bound | "Clooney" (S2E12)
But I also think you kind of had to crack up constantly because the flip can be true too. You can go to a comedy set and when they're not like cracking yucks, Dead silent. People get real serious about comedy. Very. And it's almost like they think that that's what it would be like on our set, and our set is completely the opposite of it.
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Homeward Bound | "Clooney" (S2E12)
Were they like... Eris is very, very funny. Like Eris would have us all in stitches. Like literally, she has such a big personality and whatnot. She's always trying to crack up lyric and crack up. And actually Faith, who plays Annie, is also funny. really funny because they started giving her like those one liners at the end of like piercing scenes and she would every single one of them, right?
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Homeward Bound | "Clooney" (S2E12)
So those guys were really, really funny. What about your kid?
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Homeward Bound | "Clooney" (S2E12)
All the time. She would do this thing in scenes sometimes, like right before the scene would start, she'd go, ayo! And then I remember a couple of times it made it into the scenes where folks would just go, ayo! So dumb. I loved it.
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Homeward Bound | "Clooney" (S2E12)
I remember one year we all went down south. I think we were in Atlanta and we found this beautiful home and big family. We had about 16 of us all in this house and it had four stories and we were able to split it amongst ourselves and the family got a chance to be together. Little cousins playing with each other all under the same roof, ping pong table, foosball table, pool table.
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Homeward Bound | "Clooney" (S2E12)
Then we go to Kev and Barbara, and she's talking about the need for structure in his life. And I don't know if going back to Hollywood is necessarily like the right thing for you at this moment. Kev says, I got an idea. Like I'm actually, my mom and I had this great conversation. I'm thinking I'm gonna go and stay with her, right? Which I think is,
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Like after going through everything that we just went through, like, do we have anything with each other, et cetera? He's like, I want to spend some time with my mom, right? He goes and Miguel's there and they're all talking to each other and like, you know, maybe we'll go grocery shopping.
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Grocery shopping. And Miguel's like, you know, I'll come along too, right? And you see Kev just like... Hey man, I'm trying to spend time with my mama. Here you are up in the spot." Miguel's like, yeah, I'll come along too. So anyway, we go to the dress shopping with Kate and Madison. I'm gonna take you dress shopping. She's very excited. It's a really sweet offer too.
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Homeward Bound | "Clooney" (S2E12)
Like after listening to her thing in OA, et cetera, I'm jumping all around. Like, should I continue with one of these thingamajiggas? Why don't we go to the mall? in the past. Okay. Let's go to the mall in the past.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
Hold on. You guys have to have the... Wait. Yeah, you're skipping over the... Three little vitamins.
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Wait, what did I miss? Well, just the fact of her suffering the miscarriage. Oh, she has not had it. Yeah.
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No, no, it's all good. It's totally fine. Yeah. So we open. So we open.
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A little bit of the doctor explaining what's happening.
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Yeah, in fact, I was just telling you before we recorded, my husband and I were watching the show last night, this episode, and both later in the episode when Kate says, I was pregnant, like, you don't understand, I lost the baby. And when Chris says, goes through his explanation of like, I understand, like, I physically wasn't carrying the baby, but I lost the baby too. We both were like, oh,
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Like, yes, of course. Like the fact that she didn't acknowledge that never bothered me. Like, yes, you are in it together. Again, someone that is physically carrying the child, but both people, both your, your partner, you're in it together. And I, yes, I very much, I never was like, felt weird about that.
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Yes, I have that written there too. As far as score goes. Yeah, there was a lot of silence in the house post this event.
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You know, it's hard to get little ones to follow direction, obviously.
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Yeah, at least to like, I love you. I'm okay. I don't really want to talk about anything right now, but I'm walking home. I left. All good. Just to check in.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
Yeah, it's not all Hootie and the Blowfish dancing around the coffee shop.
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Have we not seen the dog before? Yes. Well, I don't think we've made the connection yet, but this is the same dog after Jack and Rebecca had their date night where Rebecca was trying to Jack Pearson him. Yes. This dog is like in their front yard eating out of their garbage or eating. They went and got burgers and Rebecca sort of like tossed the bag behind her.
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Is that Chris Sullivan from This Is Us crying, watching This Is Us?
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No, she just, she implores Kate to share her grief with Toby because she did not share her grief with Jack for a long time. And she said, you know, it came out and it came out sideways. Like I found myself at the grocery store, like having a meltdown over yellow onions because I wanted to make your dad a pot roast.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
Yeah, it was just like, she was like, you have to share your grief because basically it's not just your grief, it's his grief too. And you guys have to, you know, have... that connection and be in community with each other about what has just happened.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
And I thought it was just, yeah, it was an interesting... I mean, this whole episode, you're really seeing, obviously, it's Toby and Kate, but you're really getting an inside glimpse into Rebecca and Kate's relationship, which we explore so extensively over the course of the series. And it's like, you're starting to...
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
just have more colored in for you about the trials and tribulations of a mother, like you said, just trying her level best. She just is trying to be there for her daughter at every turn. And really that's what that entire sort of like soliloquy in the hospital was like, we just never got there.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
And as they're walking back in the house after their conversation, this dog is eating the remains of that fast food.
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Like calling a spade a spade, like it was always easy with your brothers, but you and I, like, no matter what, we just like, we just can't connect. There's always something in between us. But like, as your mom, I'm always going to be there. Like my job is not to judge that, is just to be there with my arms open.
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And I think, again, like as a parent to a daughter now, it's just, I was like, wow, it just has me thinking about mother-daughter relationships and a relationship very, you know, profound way that I, I just haven't been able to, you know, wrap my head around yet.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
He's a scrappy guy. Yeah, he's a scrappy guy. Have we combed this dog? Does anybody do any grooming for this puppy?
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
Well, it totally works. It totally works. But I do feel there's something about that.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
Yeah. Yeah. You might be right because that does ring a bell a little bit.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
There were, Rebecca and Toby had, And, you know, they had their moments. Sure. Did you? Yeah.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
It wasn't unfriendly, but I think in the beginning, initially, like Rebecca was slightly dubious earlier on.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
Rightly so. And Toby was a little dubious of Rebecca. Because Kate essentially told him to be. They had a complicated, you know, they had a complicated relationship. So I feel like there is something about what you say that does feel plausible.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
No, no, not disrespectful. And he has great boundaries and he sticks up for his lady.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
But so yes, this is the same night, a different perspective. Same night.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
Something tells me in real life, Randall would have walked first.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
So we're going to take a little break, but when we come back, we actually have Chrissy here to chat with us a bit about this particular episode. We picked her brain a bit. So we'll be back with some Chrissy and more. That was us.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
And then the way they told Kevin as well. Remember with the zippers? Oh yeah, with the hoodies.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
Yeah, before the, yeah. It's... So much more common than is depicted in the world, is talked about. There is still so much stigma around it. Like you said, the shame that I think women feel.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
There's so much to dive into, not just with this episode, but like with every, the entire arc of your character. I really hope that you can come back and- Oh yeah, of course. Chat with us more.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
We do need to take that up with Ken Olin, because he did direct this episode and let that slide. Missed that one. In all three episodes, by the way.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
Well, you also made the mistake of punching with your fist the steering wheel at first before you realized you got to open and calm that.
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I cannot. I did clock that. It was like, that is strange.
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Also, it's like, yeah, I just, I remember thinking like, that's your dog. You love the dog.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
I was going to say that Rebecca is prodding Kate to, to give her some, to fill out her school applications, to choose five different schools that she maybe wants, that she's interested in investigating and applying to. Yeah. And Kate is very unfocused. She kind of brushes her mother off.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
And we come to learn that's because she already has a plan in place, which is to apply for the Berklee School of Music.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
Isn't that the entire reason Kate wanted to keep the pregnancy secret as well? Sure. It's like you want to keep the stakes as low as possible because they are exceedingly high. So not telling anybody in your line of thinking will somehow mitigate the pain of disappointment if things don't end up going your way.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
We do. We do. In fact, it's quite sweet. And I was watching it and now having a daughter, I'm like, oh, this is so interesting now to sort of think about it from this perspective. This is so good.
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Hard Truths | "Number Two" (S2E9)
Actually, you're kind of in the hot seat for this episode. We're talking about Katobi. Katobi.
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big gestures, his grand gestures, because Rebecca gives him a book, a beautiful leather-bound book with all his sketches in it that he's always leaving around the house, and she's clearly very proud of this idea that she's had. And he's like, oh, this is sweet, thank you.
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But for some reason, I found it extraordinarily hard in these last like few months to do that, to show up for myself in that way.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
For sure, for sure. So I guess I'm sort of making a different correlation between, and I have found myself in previous chapters of my life, like deeply, deeply in a codependent relationship. You know what I mean? Like literally like subservient, like here is your breakfast in bed every day. And if I am not able to deliver that, then what value do I have in your life? Oh yeah, like that Sterling.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, I know. Different- Different life, another podcast.
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No more. Make your own damn breakfast. Yeah. Well, I more or less did say it to that person, but like, yes, like feeling as if like I had to make myself as small as possible to fit into somebody's life and to show up in that way. And if I was unable to do that, then like, I couldn't keep this relationship intact. My life was off the rails. Like, so...
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
No, no. But I did a lot of work and excavating and unpacking all of that. And it was so strange that as that chapter of my life was ending, This Is Us came into my life. My life opened up in the most beautiful way. It's like when I chose myself, the world that I was hoping to sort of find on the other side of it was there for me waiting.
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Oh, I love that. Or what about a wellness trip? Yes. Picture this, you're staying at an Airbnb near a spa retreat, morning yoga on a private deck.
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A fresh smoothie situation in the kitchen, total relaxation. Or maybe you're the type that would rather be in a cozy cabin like Chris. Like me. Yeah, sitting by a fire with your family, just soaking everything in.
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Get a little snow action.
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I love that. That feels like a great little family tradition to start.
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You call the shots. You decide when to host, how to set up your space, who stays. Airbnb makes it super simple. So while you're off enjoying your trip, your place is working for you. So what's the perfect getaway?
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It's my favorite side of Toby.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
Yeah, cue the lights. Cue the music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And of course, this song comes on. Spotlights on them. It's their first anniversary. Like everybody sort of stops. And they're dancing in the middle of the bowling alley.
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Yeah. He's so over Madison.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
But then what was the one at the end that he was like, I don't like, actually, no, I do like that.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
Randall is not a Randy. Randy, can I call you Randy?
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And they kind of confide. It's the first time I've heard Kate talk about, like, I don't really even know Beth. Like, why is she coming? Why can't I have Randall? Right. Like, she wants to be with her brother.
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And there we have it. And there we have it. I thought about that as well, but it was, it's just interesting. Cause I'm like, oh yeah. And then we never hear from your brother.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
Was it really? Oh, yeah. They put down a mat for us.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
So you're like an only child.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
Not that this matters, but I remember watching this and I was like, oh, I remember this episode. Any time we got to go back to the early days of Jack and Rebecca, I've never seen Michael and Zoe, our hair and makeup department heads, so... They were like kids in a candy store. They loved the beard. They loved Rebecca's long extensions and cool eyeshadow.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
I would be in Ryan's boat like, what?
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
I can talk to him.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
Right. That's how it is with families sometimes, though. Right. It's like, I get that.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
We don't have the same lived life experience now as adults or the way we have families.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
It was like, and Hala, our costume designer. It's like everybody got to live out their fantasies of like dressing Milo and I like we were their personal little Barbie dolls.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
I got to sleep in. They made me look young. It was great. I loved it.
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Has been reunited with her mom.
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And Chrissy's like, oh, that's what we're doing.
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Pro, I didn't know that part of it.
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And they didn't even use that in the episode.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
Oh, I saw all the footage and pictures.
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I was like, wow, there are a lot of gentlemen in glasses.
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His co-star from his movie.
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Oh, gosh, please. No, no, no, no, no.
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Just saying, thank you.
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You gotta let the art go. You gotta let it go.
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Oh, you're very kind. And side note, hot take. The project Sterling's working on, he sent Chris and I pictures. It is the, I showed Taylor, everybody's like, whoa, that's, it's so cool.
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Can I say something? The Bourne deficiency. Everyone is kicking themselves now. All those respective projects are like, we had Sterling K. Brown, and we didn't.
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We cut Method Man out of this movie. We could have had a Sterling scene.
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They both laughed.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
Because you can, I can still see you in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very, I feel like sometimes with like crazy prosthetics and Chris, you're well aware.
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Oh, it's not for me.
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Me too. Yeah. Let's talk more about that.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
So then we sort of jump into Deja.
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Well, that feels appropriate.
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Well, I love that she admitted that. She was like, I sit in your anxiety every day. You couldn't give me this one moment. It was like, wow, that's a shade of Beth I've never seen before.
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But I appreciate it.
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That's what I'm saying.
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Like one-on-one.
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I'll remember it as you guys tell it, I'm sure.
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Yeah. What show was that?
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
Okay. Well, that was Rebecca's jam.
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She just wanted to cozy up.
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It's really admirable.
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He's so good at being present.
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That guy's an enigma. It's like, I mean, I can't wait to have him on this podcast.
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No, they see her in her car.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
We talked a lot. We'll be back with our favorite segment of the show, More That Was Us, after this break.
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For our anniversary, yep.
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Okay. So Carmela G says, I think Randall was probably born at least a day before he was brought to the hospital. Well, I guess so, yeah. And even Randall points that out in one of the episodes, which would make him number one.
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Statistically, someone would.
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That is a hot take! It's hot. That's hype and hot.
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Props. Understand that.
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Can we see some more hot takes, please? I would love it. Go ahead. Madison's character completely changed when she found out she was pregnant. She started off being this funny, quirky character, a bit of a hot mess, and all of a sudden she turned normal, borderline boring. I wish they kept her quirkiness throughout the show. That is a hot take.
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You made me borderline boring.
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This was one episode I was very bummed. I wasn't invited to tag along. We don't often travel for the show. We shoot here in Los, we shot here, I should say, here in Los Angeles, but this was an exception. One of the few times that the entire apparatus of the show traveled to Vegas.
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And I'm glad I have this excuse. Yeah.
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Yeah, I'll push back on that too.
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Yeah, that's it. I'm not entirely sure that I agree with that.
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I mean, I don't know if that's such a crazy hot take. I feel like I've heard that from people.
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Okay, Jack had a tendency to run away from his trauma's issues. His parents, his brother, et cetera, each kid inherited that in their own way, whether that be running or clinging desperately to save the relationship to avoid pain. That was the family addiction, not alcohol, weight issues like Kevin was trying to apply in the family therapy episode. Ooh, upside down face.
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There was enough- Hot take. Enough between them that we witnessed throughout the course of the show.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
I really wanted to be in Vegas.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
We learned that Justin is a Zen Buddhist. He is a Zen Buddhist. And that he, some behind the scenes gossip, you guys were shooting in old Vegas. Yes. And someone was heckling Justin. That is correct. But he kept it as cool as a cucumber. Cool as a cucumber. Didn't let him, knock him off his game. That's right. We also learned about pea slaps.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
co-dependence and our different definitions. I mean, there was a lot.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
I appreciate the white lights. Okay. All right. Wow. There's a dividing line on this couch.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
I heard wild stories about Magic Mike, you, Susan. Things happened. It didn't stay in Vegas because we will be revealing all.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
Grand gesture, he can't help himself. No, it's actually the kids. It's the kids. And the kids allow for this moment for Jack and Rebecca to sort of be out on the roof. There's a meteor shower. There's a meteor shower for them to witness that. Yes. It's very sweet.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
You're my daily meteor shower.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
Yeah. Which is a very sweet sentiment.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
See, that's the problem. You didn't talk enough. You got to speak up.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
And healthy practices put in place, because I'm definitely a codependent person.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
Oh, with you and Kevin. Okay, cool, cool, cool, cool. So this episode starts out with Jack and Rebecca bowling. That's right. And we come to find out it's their anniversary. It's their one year anniversary. And, you know, I believe this is the start of Jack's...
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
Well, okay, so the actual literal dictionary definition is excessive emotional or psychological reliance on a partner, typically one who requires support on account of an illness or addiction.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
So this also says a codependent person may have an excessive reliance on others for emotional support, validation, and decision-making. I think that's where it factors in for me. It's like, if I don't plan the vacation well, then I don't have any value. I don't, you know what I mean? It's like, if I don't do X, Y, and Z for my family, for my partner, for my parents, exactly.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
On today's episode of That Was Us, we will be discussing Season 2, Episode 16, Vegas, baby. Jack and Rebecca celebrate their anniversary in a different way than years past. Randall and Beth struggle to balance a weekend in Vegas with their growing concerns for Deja. Meanwhile, Kate and Toby navigate the awkwardness of their bachelor and bachelorette parties, while Kevin fights to stay sober.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
Then like, what value do I have? What worth do I have? What am I able to sort of bring to the table?
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
Oh, correct. And what I have just been experiencing the last couple of weeks, which is sort of like pivoted me right back into therapy, which I've sort of ebbed and flowed throughout my life. But I was like, I need help.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
I need to talk to somebody. But I have found often that like the stressors of what's been happening is
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
trying to sort of be strong trying to show up trying to plan things trying to sort of like realign our life in a way when things don't go exactly the way that they're supposed to or the way that i hoped for something it's like the littlest thing can go wrong and i'm like i'm a complete failure i don't know how to do this i you know it's like what value do i have as a as a parent as a partner or whatnot if i can't show up and do x y and z and it's like obviously that's
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
not real, but in those moments, that validation, just that I would give myself by being able to perform those specific tasks. When I'm unable to do that, I feel like a complete mess.
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Kate and Toby's Bachelor & Bachelorette Parties | "Vegas, Baby" (S2E16)
All the time, but certainly like it's exacerbated right now. And I'm working through that, but like it's, yeah, I'm just sort of like, I just need to like check out of this moment because if I can't do it well, which in normal circumstances, I'm pretty good at like having grace for myself.