Manoush Zomorodi

So I just had a great conversation with Jen Palka.

She was the founder of Code for America.

And her whole thing is, you know, yes, there's government dysfunction and shutdowns are in the news and layoffs, federal layoffs.

But in the United States, there's a movement back to the states where AI actually exists.

This is the best use case example possible.

The boring grunt work that we don't have enough people to do, that nobody wants to do, is like filling out forms.

Let's actually get people their benefits instead of making them fill out 10 different, 20 different forms.

So my hope, I'm staying optimistic on this one, is that AI gets applied efficiently and cuts down on red tape and that the states take back some of the power of just making our lives run more smoothly.

You're here to that.

Are you talking to people and like CEOs and telling them like, come on, get it together?

I'm going in a different direction.

I'm going with, I think, taking a page out of Marc Maron's book.

So our fellow podcaster, host of WTF, I think his show was on for 16 years.

Is that right?

Was it 16?

And he just was like, I think I'm done.

And I think as a Gen Xer, I think people are craving things to be done.

Like, let's end things.

That's not in an existential way.

I don't mean it that way.