Marc Andreessen

It's like, yeah, don't bullshit.

By the way, Eric, I don't know what your biggest flaw is.

It's definitely not that because that's also definitely not my flaw.

I guarantee I have other things wrong with me that are way more wrong than that.

And so I just, yeah, I can't.

I set my limit on that topic.

And maybe a crazy example of this, and I'm not sure if all the facts are out yet, but it was a situation a week ago, but it hasn't been covered that much yet.

the splc incident is it accurate that basically what was happening or is it our understanding that basically the groups that they were um sort of fighting the most or or thought were the biggest threats to um sort of you know what they care about also the same groups that they were secretly funding unbeknownst to those to those groups or

How do we make sense of what was actually happening there?

And is that indicative of something bigger happening?

And it's funny because that happened the day after we had a conversation about astroturfing.

And I was like, is it really happening to the degree that people are sort of conspiracies?

Are things like that really happening?

And it's just funny that more and more seem to get uncovered.

Yeah, and so I should start by saying the reason why this situation really matters, and actually I think matters a lot, is the SPLC specifically, and other groups like it as well, but the SPLC specifically played a dominant role in the debanking and censorship and cancellation programs of the last 15 years.

And I cannot tell you, I was in so many meetings in so many contexts with so many companies where the SPLC's word was gospel.

Like, it was just like, oh, it's the SPLC.

It was almost like the outsourced U.S.

Department of, like, I don't know, racism detection or something.

It's just like...