Marc Brooker

But, yeah, it isn't the only one.

I think there's going to be the spectrum of software practice.

And especially where software engages with the physical world, there are going to be some really interesting developments.

Questions about how do we bring these new technologies, how do we bring these new practices into the various many niches that software is going to and has, you know, over six decades kind of wormed its way into.

At risk of being a bit meta about our past conversation, it really is about finding those problems that matter and doing that early in a career.

And that requires an understanding of customers.

It requires an understanding of the business.

It requires an understanding of economics and of systems.

And

That can, I think that's going to move from being, you know, almost kind of senior engineer work of like, oh, well, you know, now you're going to go and talk to customers and actually understand the context of the stuff you're building to being more and more part of.

even the earliest steps of an engineering career, right?

Like here's the context, here's the problem, here's the customer, let's go off and work together and solve, you know, and solve this problem with all of this context.

And I think that's going to be

Super exciting for one set of folks and a little bit frustrating for people who have come into, you know, looking for a pure software development career, right?

Looking for a career where they sit down, open their IDE.

start typing and and don't stop for eight hours i think that's going to be a mode that we're going to see fewer people in and a mode that's going to be harder and harder to build a career around now the other mode of oh i'm excited to go off and learn from my customers about what they're building and what they need i think that's going to be ever more highly you know highly valuable and so super exciting opportunity to build you know build careers there

And then maybe, and this might come across as being a little bit paradoxical, I think there's also a ton of opportunity for folks who are extremely technically deep, who are deep on optimization problems or deep on infrastructure problems or deep on various scientific things or deep on databases or deep on one of the many, many topics that are behind our industry.

Because I think the ability to ask the right questions is also much more valuable than it has ever been.

And so I think there is a ton of opportunity for people coming into the industry with deep technical or scientific knowledge.

to now leverage that in ways that maybe were hard before.