Marc Brooker

I think it's never been true that people coming into technical or engineering careers straight out of college know everything.

or any career for that matter, right?

Like you talk to teachers about, you know, what they've learned on their job versus what they learned, you know, studying.

You know, they learn a huge amount in things like internships and so on and over the course of a career.

Or doctors or anybody in, you know, in a field like that.

And so, yeah, it is going to be about learning.

And I think the emphasis on what people learn is going to be different.

I think it is going to require, you know, leaders like me who, you know, care deeply about, you know, hiring and developing folks early in their career to be really thoughtful about what, you know, what does that new ladder look like?

And, you know, we're doing a lot of that thinking.

I think people are doing that kind of thinking across the industry.

And, yeah,

Yeah, it's changing fast.

It's uncertain.

It's an interesting time to be graduating.

But again, it's a super exciting time.

I think the scale of the opportunity is bigger than it's ever been.

Yeah, I mean, I think for folks there, the challenge is how do you retain the value of this incredible experience and knowledge that you've gained over a career while not falling behind, while learning how to best use the tools?

And, you know, when I look at senior folks, this is a challenge, you know, ahead of them.

I think a lot of people have found themselves in influence and leadership-type positions where they aren't hands-on building, you know, every day.

And I think it's going to be harder and harder to be in that kind of role and be able to influence and advise in a –