Marc Ellis

I don't know what happened.

Maybe he broke his leg.

Maybe he didn't get selected.

Maybe he went overseas.

Who knows?

But you've got 40 years of a commercial career.

And you look at the schools and they're all buying people who –

buying kids who play good sport.

So if you're naturally inclined to athletic pursuits, you're not necessarily academic, then it's pretty easy to hang your hat somewhere where it's more comfortable and easy.

Yeah.

You've got to get that balance right.

So I hope there's good people mentoring and offering some sort of stewardship for these kids to say, hey, remember it's only a small portion of your life and everything needs to happen and be very lucky.

Yeah.

Because otherwise you hang your hat in the wrong hook.

I think that was probably not something that was, you know, overly stated, but it was pretty categoric that, as I said to my cousin's son, it just gives you a ticket to a bus, you know, and that bus goes to a different area than the other buses, right?

So if you want to climb the ladder, get the ticket on the bus.

You don't have to stay on it.

You can jump off it, but...

that bus will take you out of this area and give you a propulsion to another area.

Not necessarily the case.