Marc Ellis

So I started doing radio at five in the morning till about 10 and then went to work thereafter.

So I worked very hard for two years and then got to understand and deal with it a wee bit.

And I remember saying to the brokers in town,

They said, oh, you'd be high risk, wouldn't you?

You'd be wanting big returns.

I said, no, no, mate.

8% compound interest.

Yeah, I mean, look, property investment mainly.

I mean, when you've...

Started with nothing.

I guess you want to make sure that you leave without losing it through stupid decisions.

Not that I feared that, but I'd like to think I've been relatively conservative.

Was that the first one?

I think we did like an Anset New Zealand time of your life where they'd get Matthew Ridge and I to go and do something, you know, in New Zealand, like a bungee jump.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And every time that show came on, when that particular segment went up, the viewership spiked.

Apparently.

Yeah.

And so off the back of that, they gave us our own series and Game of Two Halves and Rocky Road.

That's right.