Marc J. Dunkelman

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The idea that government bureaucracy could be this competent, efficient, like powerful, or that like Robert Moses could be unimpeachable, right?

Like to think that in 19 – in the first decade of the 20th century, there would eventually be the man that Robert Caro would describe in the 1950s as like this powerful 50 years later.

unimaginable to read the power broker in 1973, 74.

And this sort of idea of an establishment figure who's so unimpeachable, who, who, you know, who Jerry Rubin and Abby Hoffman and the Chicago seven, like when they were protesting these sorts of characters on the outside of the 1968 DNC and like talking about the man and the establishment and, you know,

up against the wall, motherfucker.

And right.

Like this, this sort of notion in the port here on statement and see, right.

Like this sort of notion that there was this, uh, that this establishment, uh, uh, that, that sort of hovered over American life.

And that was impossibly large and beyond our, uh, beyond anyone's control.

Um, that, that, that, that powerful institution would 50 years later, like,

be completely incompetent, but like, there's no establishment, right?

Like, like, like, like we can't, we can't build any, we can't build housing.

We can't build clean energy lines.

We like, like think of the things that we can't do and there's no one to turn to.

Like we go through these periods in American life where the sort of the broader structure of power just completely changes.

So right now,

It feels like nothing can get done.

There's no one to turn to.

There's no way to make decisions.