Marc J. Dunkelman

You want me to name a bunch of politicians?

I just think that lots of them, the new Dems, I mean, I think Dems left, right, and center

are trying to do this.

Uh, you're gonna, you're putting me on the spot here.

Uh, well, mom, Donnie, would you say mom, Donnie's doing it?

I think mom, Donnie is trying to do it.

I agree with that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I, I've absolutely, I mean, you know, I think like the way that, that ROM has looked at like what's happening in schools, right?

Like there's, there's sort of an obvious thing.

Like we've been having this stale conversation about charters and vouchers and,

bathrooms and he's focused on how are kids learning in schools.

That's the stuff that matters.

That feels to me like trying to push through the sort of arcane BS that we tend to talk about in our political dialogue.

I don't know if it's right in line with

this conversation, but like that feels like a real conversation.

I mean, you know, Shapiro's identity nationally at the moment feels like it's really tied up in that 95.

He got that thing up so fucking quick.

That was cool.