Marc J. Dunkelman

For anything is sort of beyond the pale of imagination.

But it's a worthwhile thought experiment that I haven't considered and definitely something that I should think about.

Yeah, months.

The Civilian Conservation Corps, it's a matter of months for...

you know, hundreds of thousands, the CWA came in together and something like some huge portion of the nation was hired under that program with it in less than a year, like something like 5% of the country.

I mean, it was...

just incredibly fast.

And then, yeah, you're absolutely right.

But Franklin Roosevelt also recognized these were temporary relief programs, wound them down quickly.

And so certainly by the end of the Second World War, most of the alphabet soup of programs that we remember from seventh grade social studies had been undone.

I don't know.

I think habit for the most part, like I, like I don't find much of it to be totally compelling.

Yeah.

You know, there's something cultural that happens.

Like the moments that you're talking about in the new deal,

Progressives really do have a cultural affinity for centralized power, right?

Like, you see a big public problem.

There aren't enough wires to keep these poor people in the Tennessee Valley above, like, really abject poverty.

There isn't enough...

irrigation to stop the dust bowl.