Marc Kirshbaum

Is I, I was on the board and I was, you know, evaluating the opportunity for Sokoko going forward.

So I represent the lead investor as one of my clients, who's the lead investor in Sokoko and has continued to support the company financially.

So it's more I'm working mostly with family offices and private equity firms where they have direct investments in operating companies.

And they've asked me to come in and help combination of evaluate, guide, mentor, coach across the board and the leadership to help derive value.

Because what I'm absolutely focused on are what I think are the three pillars of success for any business, which must all be firing.

Strategy, leadership, and execution.

No, like, you must be firing on all three cylinders.

Yeah.

Thanks for that.

That reputation.

Yeah.

The last thing, but philosophically, just on that note, Nathan, let me say, the first thing I do in organizations coming in and saying, were people given the tools and training that they needed to succeed?

And were they given the right management and guidance?

And in this situation with Syscoco specifically, I believe that when you look at our intellectual property, our unique product positioning with the Syscoco map, which is much more than an asynchronous communication tool and the amazing logos and customers that have stuck with us as we have evolved the product into a more stable platform.

It got me to step in and say, you know what?

This is really, really worth the investment of my time.

And we have now built out a really strong management team.

How many people on the team full time?

So full-time we have close to 30 people.

Okay.