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Marc Lynch

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304 total appearances

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The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

They did with Yasser Arafat, the founder of the Palestinian movement.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

He was confined to his compound, not able to move until his death.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

We could describe the awfulness of the life on the West Bank, and a lot of people don't get it.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

They don't understand, for example, how important the prisoner issue to Palestinians.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

You've got more than a million Palestinians, probably, who have been arrested by Israeli forces throughout the occupation.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

It's a very small population, as you know.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

There's not a family that's not touched by it, and many of them, thousands of them, are held without charges.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

And if they're taken to court, they go into military court.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

And in that military court, the conviction rate is close to 100%.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

A settler who kills a Palestinian on the West Bank, they probably will not even be charged.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

And if they ever are charged, they go to civil court.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

And rarely do they get convicted.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

So one of the things that probably drove us to think about this is this.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

kind of like you have to be even-handed here.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

You know, say, well, yeah, Palestinians should reform too.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

Yeah, right, well, they probably should, for sure, even if it's a municipality, there's corruption that could be repaired.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

But to think that that's gonna matter at the strategic level, it's really a joke.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

The other thing I wanna say about this is that there is a religious narrative, even in the secular Israel,

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

about the entitlement to the land, particularly after 1967 and holding on to the West Bank as part of Israel.

The Ezra Klein Show
Reckoning With Israel’s ‘One-State Reality’

And I think the entitlement to at least the occupied territories is tied in back of the mind is that the legitimacy of Israel derives from the biblical narrative, not from the fact that it's recognized by the United Nations as a legitimate state.