Marc Maron

How is it that most people don't understand the civic responsibility or the civic structure of how this country is supposed to work outside of the people that are shamelessly against it?

A sense of unity, a sense of people helping each other.

I believe that what you're talking about politically in terms of –

what we spoke about earlier, that people are different and some may have different beliefs, but there was a compromise that could be met and that tolerance in and of itself is conditional to democracy working.

But the brains have been broken through exploiting grievance and anger.

And in talking about the left, the fact that so many decided to not vote at a protest because they didn't feel that the situation in Israel, the ethnic cleansing of Gaza and whatnot was not going to be dealt with by Kamala or however that goes.

So you get this protest vote of people not willing to make a compromise for what you used to talk about as the incremental progress.

Yeah.

We can make it better.

Well, I think what you were talking about, about, about cynicism and disengagement is now there's a level of fear that is, is real.

Right.

Totally.

So, you know, what happens, you know, in terms of what we're talking about, all the things that we're,

that you lived through and we lived through, whether we were kids or not, the progress that was made, civil rights, gay rights, women's rights, you know, things, policies that were meant to make an attempt at sort of

expanding democratic ideas.

And you always had this core group of the other side that have been trying to dismantle this from, you know, since the New Deal.

But now, you know, and look, the left and people like me, you know, you throw around the words, you know, fascism in relation to authority.

just willy nilly.

Right.

And you, you talk about authoritarianism as if it's something that happens everywhere else.